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Abortion ok?

Are abortions ever ok?

  • Yes, but only in the case of incest, rape, or the endangerment of the mother or child.

  • Yes, but only in the case of the endangerment of the mother or child.

  • No, Never!

  • I am torn and not sure.

  • Is an abortion alright for any reason?


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JCFantasy23

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What the....? Almost everyone responding is saying it would be OK in some circumstances, but the polls above only show 3 total voting in that favor, and 7 voting no...while the 7 aren't posting. ???
 
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What the....? Almost everyone responding is saying it would be OK in some circumstances, but the polls above only show 3 total voting in that favor, and 7 voting no...while the 7 aren't posting. ???

I didn't vote because the options do not represent my opinion. No offense to the thread-starter but each are worded with way too much allness or universality. Moreover, they seem to suggest the author believes or at least wants to say that pro-choice people are somehow "pro-abortion". They are not in any form at all. The accusation otherwise is merely a rhetorical device to fool the gullible, not to say anyone is necessarily doing that here at all.
 
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I didn't vote because the options do not represent my opinion. No offense to the thread-starter but each are worded with way too much allness or universality. Moreover, they seem to suggest the author believes or at least wants to say that pro-choice people are somehow "pro-abortion". They are not in any form at all. The accusation otherwise is merely a rhetorical device to fool the gullible, not to say anyone is necessarily doing that here at all.

I am in no way doing this, but wanting a honest opinion. I am torn and wanting to see if others felt the same way. I am not for abortion, but I am also torn regarding incest, rape, or harm to the child or mother. No debate really just opinion on how different people feel about abortion. I have an entirely different thread, which you know, that is from an anti-abortion belief and opinion.
 
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I'm not for abortion, but would never tell a woman that she couldn't have one, especially as long as it's legal. It's not my right to tell her what's right for her. That's between her and God. If she asked for my opinion or my help, I would try to offer alternatives, like adoption. Ultimately the choice is hers, not mine or anybody else's. I can't vote either, no choices in the poll apply to me.
 
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I first saw my daughter in utero thru ultrasound when she was just a few weeks into gestation. So tiny, non-viable outside my womb but so cute, kicking her little legs and stretching her arms back as she reclined.

My doctors insisted that she would have Down Syndrom due to my age and some other tests and wanted me to have further testing immediately so that we could arrange to abort her if that was indeed the case. The tests they suggested could have caused a miscarriage and so we refused to have them done.

Thankfully, as Christians, we trusted God to show us His will and give us the child He chose for us. We refused to take this tiny life, this little blessing, into our own hands and instead trusted The One who gives and takes life.

Our daughter is 4 yrs old, strong, healthy, smart, sassy and above average in every way. Had we chosen to believe that we were in charge of our lives, or the life of our child we might have missed this miracle.

I voted no, there is no reason to abort a child.
 
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Hi everyone, I could use some help understanding one of the choices in this poll:
Yes, but only in the case of the endangerment of the mother or child.

I can certainly understand the question if it simply involved the mother, but wouldn't the greatest "case of endangerment" to an unborn child always be an abortion .. :confused:

It's late and I'm tired, so I assume I must be missing something.

Thanks for your help!

--David
 
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I can certainly understand the question if it simply involved the mother, but wouldn't the greatest "case of endangerment" to an unborn child always be an abortion ..
I think the question means in cases that endanger the woman. I think it was just worded wrong.
 
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I personally don't ever see anything wrong with abortion because I don't view personhood as starting until just after birth when the baby breathes its first breath of life.
 
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Following that line of thinking, ChristianGal ,does not make much sense. A baby in uetro can be born as early as 5-6 months of gestation and certainly be a viable life or as late as 10 months and be viable. A breath of air is not the beginning of life. A baby on pure tanked oxygen and a ventilator is alive and worthy of life even if he is not breathing on his own

The same as an elderly person who has to take oxygen from a tank to live, are they no longer wothy of life? When do we pull the plug, when do we determine the value of someones life? This issues speaks to both sides of the life spectrum.

The Word says that Gods knows us in our mothers wombs. Knows us in the secret places before we are born. Who are we as Christians to determine life, personally I prefer to trust God with it.

Of course there are many people who prefess to be Christians but prefer not to accept or believe the Word of God. As if their understanding were so much greater than God's.
 
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If you believe every human has the right to life.

I would propose that the most reasonable place to select that life begins is at conception. Any other argument seems to be an obfuscation of what any person would be perfectly reasonable to conclude is the begining of life (conception), and thus and arbitrary belief, likely lead by their belief in allowing people to have abortions.

Even in the case they you don't see conception as the begining of life, it would be necessary to determine when this human has the right to life, which is shared by all humans, and not take the responsibility lightly and then vigorously propose that these innocents not be murdered.

Many feminists, today, avoid this issue altogether, simply by proposing that pregnancy amount to sexism, and therefore some sort of subjugation, which cannot be fixed in any other way than abortion. Which avoids a discussion of the other, more basic problem, that killing innocent humans is always murder, and is pointing to other societal problems other than babies.

And, of course, this pragmatic approach causes them to ignore the basic problems, by covering over the problem by killing humans. Or perhaps you would call it possibly killing humans according to their philosophy which does not generally take on the argument, it simply asserts the necessity of their control over it... which could easily be called unjust subjugation of the unborn, or a type of discrimination of persons, here, based on age.

That should be plenty to help you understand the issue and take a position.
 
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:amen:

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I heard a great quote once. "There are never any accidental babies, only accidental parents." If a woman gets pregnant, that is God's child. He wants that child to grow and be strong. That doesn't mean that he wants you to be the parent. NO INNOCENT CHILD SHOULD HAVE TO DIE! (is my opinion)
 
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:thumbsup: Well said!

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If you believe every human has the right to life.

I would propose that the most reasonable place to select that life begins is at conception. Any other argument seems to be an obfuscation of what any person would be perfectly reasonable to conclude is the begining of life (conception), and thus and arbitrary belief, likely lead by their belief in allowing people to have abortions.

Even in the case they you don't see conception as the begining of life, it would be necessary to determine when this human has the right to life, which is shared by all humans, and not take the responsibility lightly and then vigorously propose that these innocents not be murdered.

Many feminists, today, avoid this issue altogether, simply by proposing that pregnancy amount to sexism, and therefore some sort of subjugation, which cannot be fixed in any other way than abortion. Which avoids a discussion of the other, more basic problem, that killing innocent humans is always murder, and is pointing to other societal problems other than babies.

And, of course, this pragmatic approach causes them to ignore the basic problems, by covering over the problem by killing humans. Or perhaps you would call it possibly killing humans according to their philosophy which does not generally take on the argument, it simply asserts the necessity of their control over it... which could easily be called unjust subjugation of the unborn, or a type of discrimination of persons, here, based on age.

That should be plenty to help you understand the issue and take a position.
 
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Abortion is alright for any reason. The fetus is not a human person until it breathes its first breath of life. You can learn more by googling for the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice.
 
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I personally don't ever see anything wrong with abortion because I don't view personhood as starting until just after birth when the baby breathes its first breath of life.

thiis i s not true. the baby i s live in the mom. i hear som people say that
the baby dont live til after 3month. this i s not true allso.
 
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thiis i s not true. the baby i s live in the mom. i hear som people say that
the baby dont live til after 3month. this i s not true allso.

And you have proof that the fetus/embryo is a living person? Somehow I doubt that you do. ;)
 
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