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Abortion Morality and Ethics

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Is it either moral or ethical for Christian men to vote for non-Christian politicians who advocate the indiscriminate slaughter of Christian babies in non-Christian secular abortion clinics without paternal notification in cases of married men and women?

If so, would it be immoral and unethical for Christian men to denounce and condemn all non-Christian politicians who advocate abortion rights for non-Christian abortionists who indiscriminately kill the fetal offspring of Christian marriages without paternal notification?
 

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I believe voting for any candidate based on their position on a single issue, or in this case a single piece of the overall abortion issue, is wrong. I don't feel it's immoral as a person voting how they choose is a civic responsibility, even when I don't agree with their vote.;)
 
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john crawford said:
Is it either moral or ethical for Christian men to vote for non-Christian politicians who advocate the indiscriminate slaughter of Christian babies in non-Christian secular abortion clinics without paternal notification in cases of married men and women?

yes.

If so, would it be immoral and unethical for Christian men to denounce and condemn all non-Christian politicians who advocate abortion rights for non-Christian abortionists who indiscriminately kill the fetal offspring of Christian marriages without paternal notification?

No, but complaining about it and using weak appeals to emotion is a whole lot easier than actually figuring out ways to stop abortions from happening.
 
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john crawford said:
Is it either moral or ethical for Christian men to vote for non-Christian politicians who advocate the indiscriminate slaughter of Christian babies in non-Christian secular abortion clinics without paternal notification in cases of married men and women?

What about the votes of Christian women or do you not acknowledge the suffrage amendment ;)

I have never heard a politician advocate the indiscriminate slaughter of Christian babies but I have heard plenty of conservative Christians advocate the killing of muslims and the leaders of Muslim countries (Ann Coulter comes to mind if you want a quote I'm sure I could provide one).

Abortion being legal does not mean that one advocates or supports abortion. Also, overturning Roe/Wade does not mean that abortion will be illegal accross the country nor does it mean that women will not receive illegal abortions..

If so, would it be immoral and unethical for Christian men to denounce and condemn all non-Christian politicians who advocate abortion rights for non-Christian abortionists who indiscriminately kill the fetal offspring of Christian marriages without paternal notification?

Do women not exist in your world or do you just not accept anything they may have to say, especially when it pertains to *their* bodies...
 
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john crawford said:
Is it either moral or ethical for Christian men to vote for non-Christian politicians who advocate the indiscriminate slaughter of Christian babies in non-Christian secular abortion clinics without paternal notification in cases of married men and women?

If so, would it be immoral and unethical for Christian men to denounce and condemn all non-Christian politicians who advocate abortion rights for non-Christian abortionists who indiscriminately kill the fetal offspring of Christian marriages without paternal notification?
Frankly, I believe that politics are immoral period. Lies, slander, extortion, are all requirements for election to political office. An evil tree cannot bear good fruit. Abortion is not stopable through legislation.Only if peoples hearts change will their behavior change.Only when people willingly accept responsibility for their own actions.These things happen one person at a time.
 
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Ease up on the loaded words if you really want objective opinions.
My perspective- when you say Christian marriages, it's obvious that you certainly mean marriages in which both partners have chosen Christianity. Do you also apply this perspective and notification philosophy to:
A) couples with a Christian wife and a non-Christian husband
and/or
B) couples with a Christian husbad and a non-Christian wife
I'm trying to fill in your framework for the question.
To try to answer you, people should vote based on the candidate's whole platform, not just a single issue.
 
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john crawford said:
Is it either moral or ethical for Christian men to vote for non-Christian politicians who advocate the indiscriminate slaughter of Christian babies in non-Christian secular abortion clinics without paternal notification in cases of married men and women?

Yes. The unborn are not christian, but their parents can be. I think it would be more accurate to say "the offspring of christians" rather than assuming the children will want to follow the parent's religion. They don't always do that.

john crawford said:
If so, would it be immoral and unethical for Christian men to denounce and condemn all non-Christian politicians who advocate abortion rights for non-Christian abortionists who indiscriminately kill the fetal offspring of Christian marriages without paternal notification?

No. If that's what they want to do, go for it. Just don't actually bomb the abortion clinics or cause other harm and mayhem. Peacefully protest them all you want.
 
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fillerbunny said:
How exactly does one baptize an unborn fetus / embryo? I am curious.
Just give the mother some Blessed Holy Baptismal Water to drink and the embryo/fetus will soon be properly bathed and baptized in, and by it.
 
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Electric Skeptic said:
Baptizing a child doesn't make it a christian. Babies are not, and cannot be, christians - until they are old enough to understand it and believe (or not).
Nah, that only holds true for atheistic babies whose parent's don't allow it to be properly baptized.
 
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john crawford said:
Just give the mother some Blessed Holy Baptismal Water to drink and the embryo/fetus will soon be properly bathed and baptized in, and by it.
Ding ding ding... problem solved...vote only for politicians that would support legislation that mandate the glupping down of quick dose of holy water by women prior to terminating their pregnancies.

* my citation is the post quoted*
 
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Chrysalis Kat said:
Ding ding ding... problem solved...vote only for politicians that would support legislation that mandate the glupping down of quick dose of holy water by women prior to terminating their pregnancies.

* my citation is the post quoted*

Actually, my reaction to it was that it would be a cure for our problems in the Middle East. We get priests to bless bottled water that we send to Iraq (and other mid-East countries). Then, the children born in the Mideast would be Christian. ;)
 
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