Abortion [CO]

[lawtonfogle]

How would a Christian justify it? Give answers from scripture.

Yes it does relate to politics.

Give answers from scripture? Ok...

1 Corinthians 10:23

In application, you can do it, it just may not be a wise choice.

Plus, God has no problem with killing children which don't meet His standard (just read some of the OT).

Also, while your reading your Bible, please provide scripture justifying your use of the internet.

 

[lawtonfogle]

I said life of the mother. I'm pro-choice, but I hate it when women use the old "whaaaaa, I'm depressed" excuse to get out of having a child. THAT, to me, is the lowest possible thing a mother could do. -_-

Well, one of the lowest.

You should read the news more. There are much more depraved things a mother can do.

 

[ryanb6]

Also, while your reading your Bible, please provide scripture justifying your use of the internet.

The bible speaks on abortion so that's a bad analogy.

1 Corinthians 10:23

You fail here because you are saying that rape, murder, etc. are all lawful in the bible. That's a lie.

 

[lawtonfogle]

The bible speaks on abortion so that's a bad analogy.

Book/Chapter/Verse. I would like to see which area you are referring to.

You fail here because you are saying that rape, murder, etc. are all lawful in the bible. That's a lie.

Oh well, yeah, guess that Bible verse does kinda stink. Guess we should leave it out of the next translation.


Or it may be that they are allowed. If you haven't noticed, God doesn't stop people from killing each other, or raping each other.

Humans just create laws for our own protection.

Anyways, I supported it with the Bible, it just so happens my argument can be turned around and used for something else unpleasant. So then, my question is this, what is wrong? My logic (which is pretty much what ever is needed to quote the Bible) or the Bible? And if it is my logic, please show what bad logic exist.

 

[ryanb6]

Or maybe you fail at exegesis.

 

[lawtonfogle]

Or maybe you fail at exegesis.

Wiki is your friend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis

Or in other words, I will use a fancy name for my interpretation and then say yours is not whatever the fancy name may be and thus is wrong.

Really, what you are saying is my interpretation is not following an intensive and critical interpretation, though in fact it is, though I will admit I didn't fully explain what I have decided based on a analysis of that passage (along with others). And yes, it applies generally, and thus the argument could be used to argue for women wearing jeans to murder. Really though, I see it as stating the obvious, which is that one can do anything, just the consequences may not be agreeable. I do understand the background has to do with it being about doing things which some Christians thought were sinful and others did not. The issue originated from the fact that these Christians were converted from different faiths, and many did not feel like they should practice any of their old traditions, even if nothing actually forbid it.

Back to abortion, you see some evidence for God allowing the killing of unborn children in certain situations, which can be shown by His very ordering of such a thing.

Still waiting for the verses which directly have to do with abortion.

 

[ryanb6]

which can be shown by His very ordering of such a thing.

So you admit that the right to life is in God's hands?

Thanks

 

[lawtonfogle]

So you admit that the right to life is in God's hands?

Thanks

You still haven't given me those verses.

Also, that right to life wasn't in God's hand, as people did the killing. If one hires a hit man, while you will the charged for murder, the hit man does not get off free. And I do not agree that God should (though He can) treat our lives like a play thing. Really, that wouldn't be very mature of hit.

Also, who is to say that someone didn't get an order from God to have an abortion? Who are you to say they did or didn't?

 

[Wyzaard]

You have used an english translation as your proof.

And you have provided nothing thus far; link or paste some examination of the Hebrew that you claim means something different than my understanding... if you wish your counter-argument to have any validity.

I'm admitting I might be wrong about this, but YOU need to show me how.

 

[ryanb6]

You still haven't given me those verses.

Also, that right to life wasn't in God's hand, as people did the killing. If one hires a hit man, while you will the charged for murder, the hit man does not get off free. And I do not agree that God should (though He can) treat our lives like a play thing. Really, that wouldn't be very mature of hit.

Also, who is to say that someone didn't get an order from God to have an abortion? Who are you to say they did or didn't?

So you deny the sovereignty of God in life?

And you have provided nothing thus far; link or paste some examination of the Hebrew that you claim means something different than my understanding... if you wish your counter-argument to have any validity.

I'm admitting I might be wrong about this, but YOU need to show me how.

Will get to it all. I'm just seeing how many Christians jump at the chance to justify abortion and reading all of their arguments for it.