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aah! this is really CREEPY!

jul7246

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I've just listened to Britney Spears' "Hit me baby one more time" and it actually DOES say "Sleep with me i'm not too young"!!!! And those Led Zepellin songs..in "Stairway to Heaven" it's "sweet satan" and more..
OK,I asked God for an answer today,He gave it to me :sigh:
I posted today about whether rock stars sell their soul to the devil or not. Last time i said that i wasn't sure,but it's more of a yes,but now i'm here to say what i wanted to! It's TRUE! They do sell their souls because it's impossible for any human to reach such popularity. Why do crowds literally go crazy and start terrible fights at rock concerts?? Is this the Lord's work? Of course not!!!!!!!
And again i repeat that i agree with Fanny J. Crossby that "the church should not sing songs to the Lord to the tunes of the world"!
We have a war with the devil we have to fight RIGHT NOW!
 

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I think what she was saying there is that "rock" is the tune of the world and it is inherritly corrupt and can't be made to fit Christian ideals.

that would be jul's interpertation, not nessisarily what Fanny Crossby was refering to.
 
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All rock stars sell their souls to the devil?! Does he show up with a pen dripping with blood? Do a little research into crowd psychology to see why people like going a little nuts at concerts.
I have to admit that the vibe at a christian concert is a lot better than a secular one. (I still had a ball moshing to rage against the machine when I was younger. And with no violence. Although sometimes surviving the crowd is a little hard. Heres a tip, don't crowd surf without a shirt when you are sweating. They drop your upper body first and you land on your head.)
Think about what you are saying and I think you may want to re-consider the 'all rock stars have done a deal with the devil' line. What you are suggesting is serious and most people know not to mess with the spirit world in such a fashion.

God bless.
 
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I've just listened to Britney Spears' "Hit me baby one more time" and it actually DOES say "Sleep with me i'm not too young"!!!! And those Led Zepellin songs..in "Stairway to Heaven" it's "sweet satan" and more..
OK,I asked God for an answer today,He gave it to me
I posted today about whether rock stars sell their soul to the devil or not. Last time i said that i wasn't sure,but it's more of a yes,but now i'm here to say what i wanted to! It's TRUE! They do sell their souls because it's impossible for any human to reach such popularity. Why do crowds literally go crazy and start terrible fights at rock concerts?? Is this the Lord's work? Of course not!!!!!!!
And again i repeat that i agree with Fanny J. Crossby that "the church should not sing songs to the Lord to the tunes of the world"!
We have a war with the devil we have to fight RIGHT NOW!

Of, course anything more popular than church is of the devil.
 
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And this is why modern Christianity's obsession with spiritual warfare is disturbing to me.

In Christian fiction books they use glorified images of Christians fighting against evil and battling whatever shallow symbol for the embodiment of evil that particular author has decided to use. On Christian TV stations, preachers try stirring up people to "fight the spiritual war".

Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, when Jesus said, "It is finished", he meant it? Not just that his life was finished, but that with his death on the cross he had already won the war and created a means for people to share in His victory? Do you really think God is so small that He will lose control of everything just because Satan has tainted some of the gifts that He has provided?

Think about it. God created music. Satan has influenced some music. Should we then not listen to any music at all? That's like finding mold on a piece of bread and vowing never to eat again.

The devil is God's devil. He is nothing in comparison to God's sovereignty. And God meant it when He said the world and all that is within it is His. We could all run around fearing Satan. But his fate is sealed; he already lost the war. It would be much more productive if we instead feared God an praised Him for being a sovereign creator and deliverer.
 
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Many..MANY....MANY words or combinations of words in the English language sound like "Satan" when played backwards.
But, then again you hear whatever you want to hear don't you?
I have listen to backwards versions of alot songs that are considered to have some kind of satanic/occult message backmasked into it. It is very very unclear to as what they are saying and only if you look at the supposed lyrics for the backmasking will you hear the "message".
 
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Ok,first of all i didn't say that ALL rock stars sold their soul to the devil. Doesn't anyone here believe that the devil can actually use really talented people?
Then, yea,'hit me baby one more time' isn't a good lyric either,but i was just giving it as an example of backward masking.
I know there is no "sweet satan" lyric in "stariway to heaven" - it's there if u play it backwards.
About the spiritual war,do u think satan is sleeping? do u actually think that he admitted his defeat? of course not!he is trying to find different ways of luring people into his bonds!
About Christian rock,i meant what i quoted:songs to the Lord shouldn't sound like the songs we hear on the radio,just with different lyrics..
I never liked Christian rock myself,but i used to listen to Chrisitan rap. I thought it was so cool and modern but now the Lord showed me personally that praise&worship and hymns should be the only acceptable music in church. And i wouldn't want to listen to anything i'd be ashamed to tell someone from my church of.
I am not friends with Mel Gibson,so i can't tell you what's on his mind. And it's not just about popularity.
 
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Surely you realize that there was a time when people said the same things you are saying about the music of hymns and praise and worship songs.

Martin Luther wrote "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God" to the same tune as a popular drinking song. Did he do it because Satan controlled him? No. He did it because it was a good tune and people knew it.

Years from now, there will be a new musical style and there will be more Christians who say that we can't let Christians make music like that because they would be imitating the world. By then music with electric guitars and drums and a rock sound will probably also be considered the traditional or classic style of worship.

Sure, Satan prowls around like a lion, but as I said, I am confident that God was telling the truth when He said He was in control and He said that none of His children can be snatched from His hand -- that means that Satan cannot steal God's children from Him.

Your arguement is weak, full of logical flaws, and also a very tired one as it has gone on for hundreds of years. If you feel that God is leading you to not participate in making music because it is evil, then go ahead and abstain from it. But don't come into the secular music area with a high brow holier than thou attitude and tell me how I am being deceived because I don't agree with you.


Also, maybe it's time to reevaluate other things. Like, I'm sure you ate dinner last night. Well guess what? So did other people all around the world. Secular people! You are letting the world dictate your eating patterns. You know, I'll bet you also showered recently. You know who else did? Secular people. REPENT. Turn from these heinous misdeeds.
 
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You know, you say many things that, if someone was recording it, could be reversed to say something quite horrifying. It's kind of silly to point the finger and rock music and musicians as being somehow worse.

Now, sure. There are lots of evil people around. Some of them are even musicians. However, hidden messages are rarely anything more than paranoia on a listener's part.
 
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jul7246 said:
Ok,first of all i didn't say that ALL rock stars sold their soul to the devil.

Yes you did. I quote, "I posted today about whether rock stars sell their soul to the devil or not. Last time i said that i wasn't sure,but it's more of a yes,but now i'm here to say what i wanted to! It's TRUE! They do sell their souls because it's impossible for any human to reach such popularity." Those are your words.

jul7246 said:
I know there is no "sweet satan" lyric in "stariway to heaven" - it's there if u play it backwards.

No, it isn't. You were told that's what it said, and you choose to believe it. I think this whole backward-masking thing is a tool the church uses to control it's youth, and you have apparently been assimilated.

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About the spiritual war,do u think satan is sleeping? do u actually think that he admitted his defeat? of course not!he is trying to find different ways of luring people into his bonds!

So, how could backward-masking lure anyone into bondage? Don't you see the absurdity in this? Your church is one example of thousands of churches across America that create demons where there are none, while they ignore the fact that 75% the congregation looks at porn on the internet on a regular basis and ignores the poor and the homeless!

jul7246 said:
About Christian rock,i meant what i quoted:songs to the Lord shouldn't sound like the songs we hear on the radio,just with different lyrics..
I never liked Christian rock myself,but i used to listen to Chrisitan rap. I thought it was so cool and modern but now the Lord showed me personally that praise&worship and hymns should be the only acceptable music in church. And i wouldn't want to listen to anything i'd be ashamed to tell someone from my church of.

This is exactly why the modern church is losing it's battle to "save" humanity. You have been told by your church what is and is not "acceptable music", and you now think that these opinions are a personal revelation from God.

And, I'm not buying it. Please forgive me for offending you, but I absolutely refuse to believe that God Himself told you that "praise&worship and hymns should be the only acceptable music in church." Who defines what is and is not praise and worship music? What about hymns? These classifications have to do with how the notes and tempos are arranged. These are accomplished by human beings. God doesn't write these tunes and float them down on some cloud to your church.

This type of vomitous legalism is what truly turns people who do not believe in Christ off about the Church. Why? Because the "Christian Counter Culture" is only concerned about what goes on "in church"...
 
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Sure, Satan prowls around like a lion, but as I said, I am confident that God was telling the truth when He said He was in control and He said that none of His children can be snatched from His hand -- that means that Satan cannot steal God's children from Him.

She's obviously not interested in what Scripture has to say. She's only interested in- and influenced by- her church's interpretations and opinions...
 
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jul7246 said:
About Christian rock,i meant what i quoted:songs to the Lord shouldn't sound like the songs we hear on the radio,just with different lyrics..
I never liked Christian rock myself,but i used to listen to Chrisitan rap. I thought it was so cool and modern but now the Lord showed me personally that praise&worship and hymns should be the only acceptable music in church. And i wouldn't want to listen to anything i'd be ashamed to tell someone from my church of.
Honestly I don't listen to popp or rock that much. I just don't like there lyrics I don't think that they are vestles for demons or saten. They just sing what there producers get for them. It is the song sritters that sould be blamed for some of the lyrics, but they write what sells.

As for the backwords thing you can hear what yopu want to hear. It would be a way to control the youth if it gets out of control and also it is pushing people away. Thats why I don't go top church because I want to find my own path with the Lord and no one to control what I think of the Lords message.

I do listen to Christian rock and I wouldn't care if a pastor came into my room when it is playing. It is the lyrics not the base that makes a song.

jul7246 said:
If u ever felt what it is like to be really close to God i don't think you'd ask such questions.. =/
As for you listening to the Lords message I think you are blowing it way out of paportion. Trust me I've had to live with visions and prophicies as long as I can remember along with other sopirital gifts (it runs in my family.) I don't dought twhat you found out but I just think you blow it way out of paportion. I knew what it is like to be close to God. He has even shown mye all the marders. It is a wonderfull feeling. If he tells you something don't twist it around leave it like it is don't make it anymore bigger.Leave it up to him.
 
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