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A vote for Hillary is..........

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We know who's buying elections. The Koch Brothers, who run ads about all the people they hire while they poison the water supplies in the towns their workers reside in--all the while buying legislators who'll appoint judges who'll let them poison the rest of us.

Or Sheldon Adelson, gambling magnate.
Funny how you're quick to see a few of those funding Republicans ... while turning a blind eye to those buying Democrats. Who do you think bankrolls Democrats?
 
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Folks, Biden and McCain are history. We're talking about what is going to happen in November 2016.

Misplaced language like "blatant fear mongering," and supporting Hillary plus as many as 4 Supreme Court Justices who agree with her, is not compatible with those who present themselves as members of the Body of Christ. That is the issue. How will your vote be compatible with your faith, presented to you by the Holy Spirit for the purpose of living a holy life, not to mention eternal security, God's amazing gift to all who name the Name of Jesus.
You do realize that the President doesn't actually appoint Supreme Court Justices right? S/he just nominates them and the Senate approves the nomination. Do you really think after the antics with President Obama that the GOP isn't going to block any nominee that isn't to the right of Scalia?
 
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Quite a few were unwilling to take the risk that McCain would survive. The risk associated with his running mate was just too high. That and that choice raised issues regarding his judgment.
Hindsight being 20/20 it's obvious now what an obscene trainwreck a Palin presidency would have been, but I don't thin mm the full crazy was displayed until after the election.

There is a school of thiught that says Palin's selection as running mate was the Republican establishment's way of thr9wing the election so they weren't lumbered with reconstruction. I'm not saying that's what happened, but it's an intriguing idea.
 
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You do realize that the President doesn't actually appoint Supreme Court Justices right? S/he just nominates them and the Senate approves the nomination. Do you really think after the antics with President Obama that the GOP isn't going to block any nominee that isn't to the right of Scalia?
I believe that if a Democrat is elected President in 2016, the Senate will change hands. In 2012, many Democratic Senate seats were at risk. This year, many Republican Senate seats are at risk. They're not going to keep them all.

We're kind of stuck with "Animal House" for some time to come, thanks to redistricting after the 2010 census and lots of Republican governors.
 
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Disastrous.

The failure of Christians to vote elected Obama --- twice.
The number of Christians voting without considering the consequences --- millions.

Think about it. A vote for Hillary Clinton is an endorsement of:

Abortion at any stage in the pregnancy, including taking the life of the child at birth or shortly thereafter. Forcing Christian groups to accept abortion, birth control, and same-sex marriages, same-sex adoptions, same-sex restrooms.

Islam as a "great" religion. Endorsement of all religion. Preventing pastors and our military from speaking out from a Christian perspective.

Erasing the 2nd Amendment.
Confiscating privately owned guns and ammunition.
Martial law.
Illegal immigration.
Free medical, social security, welfare benefits, drivers' licenses for non-citizens.
An open door on the U.S.-Mexico border.
Welfare for 46% of the U.S. population, at 54% of taxpayers expense.

Shipping our manufacturing companies overseas, then buying from them to pay the wages of foreign employees, while avoiding U.S. taxes.

Borrowing $$$$ from China et al while not paying the interest on the 20 trillion dollar debt.

Continuing the agreement with Iran.
Continuing the exceptionally limited response to ISIS and similar groups around the world.
Downsizing the entire U.S. military.
Upsizing the Washington, D.C. bureaucracy. Adding to the three million federal employees while upsizing their salaries plus expenses.
Federal control of all education.
Federal control of all law enforcement, from small towns to states.
Federal control of medical care.
Rule by executive order.
Charge enemy combatants with "workplace incidents" and "criminal acts of violence" in U.S. courtrooms rather than military tribunals.

Communicating with Eleanor Roosevelt.

Just think about it..........She would have the opportunity to appoint three Supreme Court Justices, perhaps four, in her FIRST term!!

Got anything exposing Hillary to add? Add it, then pass it on!

Pro-Hillary? Create your own file. Leave this one alone.[/QU

First let me say I have NEVER in 50 years voted for a Democrat.

Here is what you are missing. Yes as Christians we are to support Christians running for office, BUT what id that Christian is totally unqualified for the job? I have a few Mennonite (horse and buggy type) Christian friends. They do not vote, they do not collect Social Security, they do pay taxes just like all of us do. Instead they pray. Is prayer jus as good as a vote? Do we as people of the US get what God feels we deserve? Has the US kicked God out of our country? Have we said killing babies is ok? Have we not said same sex unions are the same as marriage? Have we not kicked God out of the US?

I vote every election, but maybe prayer is just as good as a vote? Is dirty politics a place for Christians?

I am a 100% service connected disabled Veteran, so you bet I am going to vote. I would rather see someone stay at home than vote for a Democrat! But we are pilgrim's, not of this world, so I hope God will do what ever it takes to bring the US down to its knees to repent and come to God. That will never happen!

Politics and Christianity can you mix the two?
 
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Crazy is as Crazy does! LOL
Apparently there's a "special place in hell for women who don't vote for Hillary" ??
yeah that's funny..right? :eek:

Context is something that happens to other people, isn't it?
 
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Christians failed to vote, and Christians voted without considering the consequences.

Don't let it happen again.

Well, it wasn't that Christians failed to vote, it's that Christians are a shrinking demographic.

I'm not trying to insult Christians or anything like that, just stating a statistical fact.

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Christians, since the 80's were an "ace in the hole" demographic for the Republicans, much like the 18-25'ers are for Democrats.

8% in 7 years is a fairly significant drop...and this is a trend that has been going on for a while now. The republican party can't simply rely on Christians to win them elections like they have been able to in the past.

Combine that with the drastic change in attitude pertaining to certain social issues...Republicans need to try to broaden their appeal by sticking with fiscal issues and gun rights and realize that the gay marriage and abortion issues aren't the hill to die on...
 
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Republicans need to try to broaden their appeal by sticking with fiscal issues and gun rights and realize that the gay marriage and abortion issues aren't the hill to die on...
It might also help if they were genuinely fiscally conservative.
 
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It might also help if they were genuinely fiscally conservative.

True...

The only issue (fiscally speaking) they're more conservative on is individual and corporate taxation...however, in terms of their spending plans, they're really not any more financially responsible than the democrats. They just want to spend money on different stuff.
 
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The only issue (fiscally speaking) they're more conservative on is individual and corporate taxation...
I'm not even sure that's true. Look at all the Republicans who want to raise taxes on the poor and the lower middle class.
however, in terms of their spending plans, they're really not any more financially responsible than the democrats. They just want to spend money on different stuff.
That's quite true. I've pointed out that Donald Trump's policies would vastly increase the deficit (which, shockingly, is influenced by taxes and not just spending), probably by over a trillion dollars. You'd think that would cause every conservative to hate him, especially since so many of them have complained about the debt under Obama—yet Trump is still the Republican front-runner, and three fourths of Republicans think he'd be at least an average President.

Actually, I'd argue that Republican politicians are vastly less "fiscally responsible" than Democrats, considering the debt ceiling crises in 2011 and 2013.
 
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You'd think that would cause every conservative to hate him, especially since so many of them have complained about the debt under Obama—

Don't worry. If a republican gets into office, any republican, all talk of the debt from conservatives will cease.

-- A2SG, until another democrat wins, that is......
 
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Don't worry. If a republican gets into office, any republican, all talk of the debt from conservatives will cease.
Or they will say:

"Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." -- Dick Cheney
 
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Why am I suddenly picturing these guys as swingers?
Well, there's an apt metaphor for campaign finance. But it's insulting to the moral stature of swingers.
 
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I believe that if a Democrat is elected President in 2016, the Senate will change hands. In 2012, many Democratic Senate seats were at risk. This year, many Republican Senate seats are at risk. They're not going to keep them all.

We're kind of stuck with "Animal House" for some time to come, thanks to redistricting after the 2010 census and lots of Republican governors.
The Democratic Party needs to pick up 5 seats to take the Senate, 6 if Bernie is elected. That is doable as there are enough seats up in the air. However they need to pick up 14 is they want to be filibuster proof and I'm not sure how likely that is.
 
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