One insofar as you all profess faith in God; definitely not one regarding the content of the faith you confess.
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One insofar as you all profess faith in God; definitely not one regarding the content of the faith you confess.We are one in our faith in God
A lot of differences, arguments and debates concern church practice, rather than doctrine. Either that, or details which, ultimately, aren't that important.One insofar as you all profess faith in God; definitely not one regarding the content of the faith you confess.
Predestination, baptismal regeneration, one saved always saved, losing one's salvation, receiving or rejecting sacred tradition, prayer and intercession, Paid ministers or only unpaid ones ...A lot of differences, arguments and debates concern church practice, rather than doctrine.
Yes - those aren't doctrine.Predestination, baptismal regeneration, one saved always saved, losing one's salvation, receiving or rejecting sacred tradition, prayer and intercession, Paid ministers or only unpaid ones ...
And a solution.The alternative is a free-for-all, as we have now to a great extent with many disagreeing with each other based on Scripture alone,
How come?One cannot help but disagree.
But ONE LORD , ONE FAITH , ONE BAPTISM is true .Saint Paul said that there is
One body [the Church which is Christ's body]and one Spirit: as you are called in one hope of your calling. One Lord, one faith, one baptism. One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in us all.Ephesians 4:4-6 DRB
It is a truth from apostolic times; those who deny it may as well deny the inspiration of the holy scriptures.
They are, by definition, doctrinal.How come?
How are predestination, rejecting tradition or having paid/unpaid ministers Christian doctrine?
That doesn't answer my question.They are, by definition, doctrinal.
I’m speaking about which theology is right, not the opinions of individuals, which may vary widely. Individuals do not define Catholicism, for example; the Catholic Church does so, and so it’s teachings are the standard Im comparing other beliefs with. And those teachings can be found in the catechism of the Catholic Church. And those teachings do not depend on Scripture alone, but on the faith as received prior to the New Testament even being written.Notice the fine detail -- even inside the most unified churches people will disagree on this or that. (you learn as you listen to many) Even in the Catholic Church, which itself (like all churches or any one church) visibly having a lot of " many disagreeing with each other ". (websites are devoted to reporting all of this endless disagreement)
Not at all. Going by Scripture alone people have agreed on heretical or erroneous viewpoints. JW theology comes to mind, as well as the Reformed theology on justification. At the same time new denominations continue to spring up, as they did at the beginning of the Reformation, based on disagreement over Scriptural interpretations! Luther feared and predicted that this could happen!Scripture is how we can all agree on many crucial things.
Oh, yes, it means water baptism. Read the didache, read early fathers and the beliefs and practices of the early churches and you’ll find that there was never any other understanding within Christianity. Yours is a matter of interpretation, which also happens to disagree with the interpretation of many other Protestants going by Scripture alone and so which proves, once again,the fallacious nature of the doctrine of Sola Scriptura.But ONE LORD , ONE FAITH , ONE BAPTISM is true .
EXCEPT where it says ONE BAPTISM , does not mean WATER BAPTISM , as it means ONE BAPTISMA , JUST CHECK THE GREEK TEXT and see
This Greek word BAPTISMA is used in Matt 3:17 , 20:22 , 21:25 ---Mark 1:4 and in 1 Peter 3:21 22 passages ,
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Knowledge is always key to culpability. I left the RCC for over 25 years and was very a surprised when I found myself back inside her doors-especially since I was quite anti-Catholic for a long spell. God works in mysterious ways, etc. He has His own plans in any case-and sometimes they may well upset and controvert our own-thank God!I was always taught (when I was in the RCC) that it meant that we knew the most assured path to Salvation was through the Church (The RCC), but we did not know that there is not salvation outside of the Church as God is ever merciful. Basically CC847 gives an "out" to people that just have no real chance to embrace Rome but live a "Christian" life.
Now, those of us that actively and purposely left the RCC, well we are probably damned based on most RCC teachings. Fortunately we also believe that those ideas are incorrect in the first place so take little stock in that line of thought.
I'd rather rely on God's word as the sole authority than on some denomination which says that they, alone, have the full truth.Sola scriptura produced more denominations in one generation than 1,500 years of history that preceded it. Relying on scripture as sole authority and individual interpretation as effective authority led to end less divisions
I know there are; I've seen them on here, and I've always defended Catholics against that teaching.There are still some Protestant groups and individuals, OTOH, that fail to return such consideration, instead considering the RCC to be the harlot of Babylon.
I'd hope that in treating me like others would want to be treated they would not be holding back the Truth from me. Should we withhold the truth from those with non-Christian beliefs, for example? And the truth is that not all of us possess the truth of the gospel as fully as others do (presumably none of us possess it absolutely perfectly as individuals), which is one reason why these forums exist and why even Protestants debate other Protestants on these very forums. Either way, speaking the truth, if done in love, is not maltreatment, even if not always comfortable.I know there are; I've seen them on here, and I've always defended Catholics against that teaching.
But I find that I don't get the same consideration from some Catholics, who have said that I have only a "subset" of the truth, that I am outside the "true" church and that I need to "come home."
Now who was it who said, "treat others as you would like to be treated"?
No.I'd hope that in treating me like others would want to be treated they would not be holding back the Truth from me. Should we withhold the truth from those with non-Christian beliefs, for example?
Jesus IS Truth.And the truth is that not all of us possess the truth of the gospel as fully as others do
But saying that I have only a "subset" of the truth, is not true.Either way, speaking the truth, if done in love, is not maltreatment, even if not always comfortable.
One would like to have a charitable view of people who have done what you say but it is hard to do that. If you knew what you were leaving, chose to leave it, and then to oppose it one cannot hold out much hope. Deliberate apostasy is a problematic stance to take, what you say is, if it is true, deliberate apostasy.those of us that actively and purposely left the RCC
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