A TE struggle?

[gluadys]

I came across this interesting observation in the creationist sub-forum.

Internally they [TEs] must struggle with the reality of God as active in history, particularly in the beginning.​

I have no idea why the poster would think this of TEs. I certainly have no problem with the reality of God as active in history. In fact, I take it for granted and it is for me a ground of hope. What do other TEs think?

 

[Jase]

I see no problem with God being active in history, I just don't believe he created a deceptive world in 6 days, despite having 4.5 billion years of history. There is a difference between active and deceptive.

 

[Melethiel]

Absolutely no problem here. On the contrary, I think that a TE view puts God as more active in history than a YEC view.

 

[gluadys]

Absolutely no problem here. On the contrary, I think that a TE view puts God as more active in history than a YEC view.

I agree. A YEC view often seems to limit God's action to obvious supernatural miracles, while a TE view includes both supernatural and natural action by God.

For example, I would see the collapse of the apartheid regime in South Africa as an example of God acting in history, but there was no obvious supernatural miracle that brought it about.

 

[Mallon]

I think that attitude it just frustration manifest. I don't struggle in that way at all anymore. Becoming an evolutionary creationist has finally allowed me to reconcile God's creation and inspired word.
Let's face it: evolutionary theory has won out over all other explanations for life on earth. We're not fighting a losing battle. We have the upper hand, and the numbers clearly show that. When I do sometimes feel frustrated, I just look at the big picture and rest assured.

 

[shernren]

What everyone else said.

 

[vossler]

I personally don't see TEs struggling with much of anything; they've got it all figured out.

 

[shernren]

Now he's got it! ;D

 

[Willtor]

Of course we agree that God acts in history. We all signed the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed in order to post in this forum, right?

 

[pgp_protector]

I came across this interesting observation in the creationist sub-forum.

Internally they [TEs] must struggle with the reality of God as active in history, particularly in the beginning.​

I have no idea why the poster would think this of TEs. I certainly have no problem with the reality of God as active in history. In fact, I take it for granted and it is for me a ground of hope. What do other TEs think?

How else do you think all those random quantum fluxations fell in our favor ?

 

[localz]

How else do you think all those random quantum fluxations fell in our favor ?

This one.

 

[theFijian]

I think the comparison between human history and natural history demostrates quite well how God uses natural means to fulfill his sovereign purposes.

And I think the quote in the OP also demosntrates quite well that Creationists will believe what they want to believe, regardless of the evidence available.

 

[gluadys]

I personally don't see TEs struggling with much of anything; they've got it all figured out.

I think we struggle about different things. For example, I just returned from a prayer breakfast organized by our local member of the provincial parliament. She is an ordained minister and was a pastor before she went into politics. Ours in a riding in which there is a lot of poverty, and it is something she is very concerned about. She has introduced a bill to raise the province's minimum wage.

Now she wanted to bring people of faith together to see how we can work together to serve the poor. Several churches were represented, two mosques and a group of Tibetan Buddhists.

But not one single evangelical congregation sent a representative. And I struggle with that. I don't doubt that evangelical congregations are charitable. I don't doubt that they provide services to the poor. But where are they when we can be working together? She plans to hold more prayer breakfasts of this sort. I hope that we do see this gap filled in the future.

Surely we don't need to agree on evolution or the interpretation of Genesis 1 to join hands in fulfilling a gospel mandate to feed the hungry and bring justice to the impoverished.