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A struggle of sorts

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Some of you may not see this as a struggle but I've got two churches in mind to join.

I really dont know where to start... I love both pastors. They are very much what I'm looking for in a pastor. (thats too long a list to mention) The problems lie in almost everything else.

Church one
-They are Afro-centric; Im not. I could get over it but I value diversity and difference.
-They are somewhat snooty. A large majority of the congregation is wealthy and they seem to have a stick somewhere (hi moderators!).
-There is a generation missing: 20-30's. I love the insight of the older folks and the mentoring to the younger folks but I felt like the only 20-something there.
-There is work to be done and other stuff that no one has taken the initiative to do. However, they are rather content to stay in their little box.
-The pastor has a few people to work with him. I understand what he's trying to do and would love to pour myself into the church but...
-The mens fellowship is stale and irrelevant. Shallow conversations about nothing.

Church two
-Even more snooty than the other church. They have much larger sticks there. They looked at me like I was on fire when I wore jeans to service.
-The church is out in the suburbs - almost 40 miles out.
-The 20-30 age group is a little more noticable but most are married and starting families (kinda jealous). They are kinda reluctant to invest time in outreach and other things siting marital or family obligations.
-Im not sure there is a mens fellowship.

Positive things about each church overlap - there is work to be done, the new music department directors are serious about worship, ministry and music, the pastors are willing and want to do new things, there is room for improvement, both pastors have a handful of people willing and able to work on various things.

Not that I see myself as some outstanding person but I'm up in the air about which church I should join. Please share your thoughts.
 

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The search for a church begins and end with praying. Give it to God to place you where he wants you. The church is not a social club. It is a place to develops us in God's fullness so that we become bearers of his holy good name. So then the place you end up should form you as a Christ is for the humanity.
 
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wayoutsidethebox said:
Some of you may not see this as a struggle but I've got two churches in mind to join.

I really dont know where to start... I love both pastors. They are very much what I'm looking for in a pastor. (thats too long a list to mention) The problems lie in almost everything else.

Church one
-They are Afro-centric; Im not. I could get over it but I value diversity and difference.
-They are somewhat snooty. A large majority of the congregation is wealthy and they seem to have a stick somewhere (hi moderators!).
-There is a generation missing: 20-30's. I love the insight of the older folks and the mentoring to the younger folks but I felt like the only 20-something there.
-There is work to be done and other stuff that no one has taken the initiative to do. However, they are rather content to stay in their little box.
-The pastor has a few people to work with him. I understand what he's trying to do and would love to pour myself into the church but...
-The mens fellowship is stale and irrelevant. Shallow conversations about nothing.

Church two
-Even more snooty than the other church. They have much larger sticks there. They looked at me like I was on fire when I wore jeans to service.
-The church is out in the suburbs - almost 40 miles out.
-The 20-30 age group is a little more noticable but most are married and starting families (kinda jealous). They are kinda reluctant to invest time in outreach and other things siting marital or family obligations.
-Im not sure there is a mens fellowship.

Positive things about each church overlap - there is work to be done, the new music department directors are serious about worship, ministry and music, the pastors are willing and want to do new things, there is room for improvement, both pastors have a handful of people willing and able to work on various things.

Not that I see myself as some outstanding person but I'm up in the air about which church I should join. Please share your thoughts.

I think you should look for "Church Number 3". LOL There is no room for snootyness in God's kingdom. Humility is one thing that the church desperately needs. Is the snooty behavior real, or is it just perceived by you based on a short relationship. Perhaps you need to go to both for a while (trade off weeks) and let them get to know you, and maybe the perceived snootyness will go away.
 
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I must agree with qh93536. There may be another church out there that needs you, and will be far more open and welcoming. Then again, if these are the two churches that you are set on, then ask yourself which can help you develop more as a Christian— neither will make you deteriorate as one, and as long as you are striving to be more and more in the service of God, they can take their snootiness about your pants and let it join the stick. ^_~

Good luck and God Bless you, no matter your choice.
 
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church one is every point except one, like mine, with the difference that mine is asian-centric. Though the pastor is white male!
Have you exhausted the churches in your area totally?
I'm in the same boat as you in a lot of ways.
My decision to attend here is because the other's i have been to tend to be either 'charismatic' or heading that way (read entertainment i.e. if we stop entertaining them, we'll lose them!, mindset).
If you want a VERY serious bunch of men to fellowship with come to my church! -that's a joke.
I think you need to feel somewhat comfortable and accepted in any church, whether people are the same race or not.
Also, the church is NOT the pastor -read psychological bondage.
I'd keep my eyes open for a while...
 
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Go into both churches, why restrict yourself? I goto different churches too, and so far it hasn't been a bother, i get to enjoy the joy of both churches.
Yes, take just what you need out of church and don't give....No! Choose one and be devoted to those people.
 
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dvd_holc said:
Yes, take just what you need out of church and don't give....No! Choose one and be devoted to those people.
I think for the devoted it would be possible to devote one's self to two churches. After all, what you're truly devoting yourself to is the Holy Spirit, not a building and group of men.

Whatever you feel is right, you will know, and I hope you can find guidance for your struggle, wayoutsidethebox.
 
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