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<blockquote data-quote="Silmarien" data-source="post: 74727296" data-attributes="member: 395596"><p>I don't think there are any democratic socialistic countries in Europe. There's a fair amount of social democracy, but democratic socialism is very different.</p><p></p><p>There are definitely democratic socialistic parties in Europe, though, though I'm familiar with Spain rather than Scandinavia.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm assuming this is sarcasm? Impossibly naive libertarianism does exist, but you're laying it on a bit too thick.</p><p></p><p>I'm a Warren supporter. I don't identify as a capitalist, but she does, and there's actually a good reason for that. I get annoyed at the constant conflation of the two, since there are significant differences.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I am talking about the nationalization of the oil and energy industries. Government control of the means of production is standard in socialistic countries, so if a candidate champions such economic structures, he is a socialist. If he actually identifies as a socialist, I don't understand why anyone would insist that he isn't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If this is true, you need to read more about 19th century labor. If it isn't true, I really have no idea how you interpreted a post about the differences between Sanders and Warren as a defense of laissez-faire capitalism. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/old/scratch.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":scratch:" title="scratch :scratch:" data-shortname=":scratch:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silmarien, post: 74727296, member: 395596"] I don't think there are any democratic socialistic countries in Europe. There's a fair amount of social democracy, but democratic socialism is very different. There are definitely democratic socialistic parties in Europe, though, though I'm familiar with Spain rather than Scandinavia. I'm assuming this is sarcasm? Impossibly naive libertarianism does exist, but you're laying it on a bit too thick. I'm a Warren supporter. I don't identify as a capitalist, but she does, and there's actually a good reason for that. I get annoyed at the constant conflation of the two, since there are significant differences. Yes, I am talking about the nationalization of the oil and energy industries. Government control of the means of production is standard in socialistic countries, so if a candidate champions such economic structures, he is a socialist. If he actually identifies as a socialist, I don't understand why anyone would insist that he isn't. If this is true, you need to read more about 19th century labor. If it isn't true, I really have no idea how you interpreted a post about the differences between Sanders and Warren as a defense of laissez-faire capitalism. :scratch: [/QUOTE]
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