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Cjwinnit

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You are quite right. The government have excepted these gyms from anti-discrimination laws, and I also see no good reason for that exception being granted. But that doesn't mean anyone else should be granted such an exception, it means we should review the exception that has been granted in this instance.

As a libertarian, I don't think it's the job of the Government to tell businesses who they can and can't serve.
 
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Bungle_Bear

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As a libertarian, I don't think it's the job of the Government to tell businesses who they can and can't serve.
Libertarianism works well in a utopian existence. But in this non-utopian existence you would quickly change your mind if you found nobody would serve you!
 
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Libertarianism works well in a utopian existence. But in this non-utopian existence you would quickly change your mind if you found nobody would serve you!

Libertarianism is more susceptible to majority rule unfortunately.
 
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Libertarianism is more susceptible to majority rule unfortunately.

In some cases. Economically, it is usually the opposite, with the rich minority holding all the power without any checks and balances.
 
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But how can they make the right choice if truth is withheld from him/her?
You seem incapable of grasping the idea of common ground. Remember, a non-Christian for obvious reasons does not believe that Christianity is "the truth".
 
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In some cases. Economically, it is usually the opposite, with the rich minority holding all the power without any checks and balances.
True. Though that is also true of most political systems(and lack there of). Which is why I removed the paragraph mentioning such from my original post. Maybe I should of left it in.:blush:
 
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No, cannot agree with you there. The younger generation have greater access to greater amounts of info at a very early age via the internet. The problem is that they are being deprived of real truth that only Christianity provides thru God's Holy Word.

The `truth` in your opinion.
 
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Bungle_Bear

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John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".
As Christians you are expected to believe that is the truth. But that doesn't actually make it so. As a non-Christian I do not believe it to be the truth - does that mean it is not the truth? Unfortunately it doesn't ^_^ It just means we have each chosen different versions of the truth.
 
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It's interesting how some Christian posters here struggle with the difference between fact/opinion and objective/subjective when it comes to religious beliefs :confused:

It's not that we struggle with working out the difference, but in what the world considers to be fact/opinion and the Christian faith.

We have a different worldview - it shouldn't be that surprising.
 
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