A small but not insignificant detail in the Qur'an

[Montalban]

There is no Pharoah before the Pharoah.

Historically that's not yet shown. And, your argument, is simply based on the assumption that the OP is correct. It's circular; No one before Moses could have been called Pharaoh, so when this Pharaoh is placed before Lot in order, he's not a Pharaoh before Lot.

Whereas I argue that there were Pharaoh's BEFORE Moses based on
a) the time-line of the Koran is clear here in the order it gives these names.

and
b) the fact that historically, it's not inaccurate to refer to earlier kings of Egypt as Pharaoh.

Whilst it is true that the Pharaoh AT THE TIME OF JOSEPH is simply called 'king' it is not incorrect to refer to Pharaoh's before Moses' day as Pharaoh (as evidenced by Peaceful Soul's citation)

How you see a list going A-B-C-D-E-F as A-C-D-E-F-B is entirely up to you

 

[anatolian]

Why do you think that the order of 38:12 must be a historical order? Do you have any method for this? Here there is a different order. 89:9"And with the Thamud (people), who cut out (huge) rocks in the valley?" 89:10"And with Pharaoh, lord of stakes? "Thamud was mentioned after Pharoah in 38. Quran doesnt tell us any Pharoah story other then the Pharoah of Moses,therefor I normally think this Pharoah is that Pharaoh.

 

[Montalban]

Why do you think that the order of 38:12 must be a historical order?

a) See Peaceful Soul's post.
b) everything in the Koran's supposed to be significant.

Do you have any method for this? Here there is a different order. 89:9"And with the Thamud (people), who cut out (huge) rocks in the valley?" 89:10"And with Pharaoh, lord of stakes? "Thamud was mentioned after Pharoah in 38. Quran doesnt tell us any Pharoah story other then the Pharoah of Moses,therefor I normally think this Pharoah is that Pharaoh.

It doesn't tell the story of Pharaoh AND Moses other than the story of Pharaoh and Moses; but as you believe in many prophets that are unknown it's not improbable that unknown prophets met un-named Pharoahs and were rejected.

But as I say, if you want to interpret the order given in the koran as you have, that's up to you.

You still don't have any evidence that this is 'significant' (as per a Biblical error)