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You are entitled to think that. If you don't like it, don't do it.I think sodomy is gross for heteros to be doing.
Well, at least you bes honest ...Probably not.
Bes this a sincere question? Do you truly seek an answer?What does "bes" mean and why do you use it?
Right, but you seem to think it bes helpful to ppls somehow for you to be mean or cruel or scathing or horrid in how you talksy them if they have not yet experienced everything they hope to experience when they turn to JC. Why you cannot grasp how painful that bes to be trapped in that twilight zone of discrepancy, and why you think treating them nasty rather than with kindness and compassion will even remotely be acceptable let alone actually help, bes beyond this one.
True, why would anyone care?You are entitled to think that. If you don't like it, don't do it.
But I ask again, why do you care so much about what anyone else does in their own bedroom?
Indeed. However, the artefacts you cite correct identifiable faults.
Trying to change one's inherent sexuality is not correcting any identifiable fault.
Right, but you seem to think it bes helpful to ppls somehow for you to be mean or cruel or scathing or horrid in how you talksy them if they have not yet experienced everything they hope to experience when they turn to JC. Why you cannot grasp how painful that bes to be trapped in that twilight zone of discrepancy, and why you think treating them nasty rather than with kindness and compassion will even remotely be acceptable let alone actually help, bes beyond this one.
What a sad view of marriage, to think that it's only an excuse to have sex.I think sodomy is gross for heteros to be doing.
My God didn't make me that way. And I do have sexual desire, as I remained celibate for many many years just like God asked in the Bible. I didn't "partner up" just because I couldn't get married, and seriously considered remaining single for the rest of my life.
So tell me what makes you better than me. Loving monogamous relationships are nothing more than an excuse to have gay-sex together without any hope of ever having kids. It's sexual idolatry pure and simple just like abortion.
What a sad view of marriage, to think that it's only an excuse to have sex.
I feel sorry for you, that you have this cynical view of a loving marriage.
You aren't going to get far with anyone if you think you can talk to a gay or lesbian as if they are a "disobedient childsy". That mindset doesn't show any humility, and isn't any way to minister to anyone.I talksy them as if they bes already Christians as they claim. They need bes talksied to as a disobedient childsy.
They don't think they are trapped in"discrepancy" (in other words, hypocrisy and error). They bes mean to those who hold the light. They don't want the light. They bes happy in the dark.
They bes mean to those who hold the light
Humans have been severely poorly wired for that endeavor. Centuries of toxic methods of speaking to disobedient children -- which result only in harm and destruction of their sensitive spirits and the warping of their characters and self-concepts rather than producing obedience -- bes hardwired and programmed into human parenting responses and defaults. Typical methods attempting to overcome this overcompensate and err on the opposite side, thus exacerbating the problem for the next generation by seeming to reinforce the false sense of "rightness" of the original toxic mechanism.I talksy them as if they bes already Christians as they claim. They need bes talksied to as a disobedient childsy.
You perceive them as mean because they bes reacting to what they perceive as harshness and cruelty in "those who hold the light". And even if you bes kind and compassionate with them, it may be that BECAUSE you bes kind and compassionate that they might believe they can open up to you and SHOW you the levels of pain dealt to them by others who claimed to have "held the light" and whose impact on their lives had been nothing short of spiritually and emotionally abusive and devastating. Admittedly, not everyone can handle that without taking it personally, but getting the poison OUT bes the first stage in healing, and necessary thereunto. IF, of course, one undertakes to be a healing presence in another's life.They don't think they are trapped in"discrepancy" (in other words, hypocrisy and error). They bes mean to those who hold the light. They don't want the light. They bes happy in the dark.
Haven't we been over this? Let's not disguise what Exodus really is about...it's reparative therapy = dangerous and doesn't work.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCV1Y8WkZKI
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Floatingaxe said:They don't want the light. They bes happy in the dark.
I read the post again. And that's exactly what he said. It's sad.He never said that. Read it again.
Mercyburst said:Loving monogamous relationships are nothing more than an excuse to have gay-sex together without any hope of ever having kids. It's sexual idolatry pure and simple just like abortion.
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