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are you saying that we cant get nested hiearchy in biology by looking at 24 genes?
so you are talking about most ervs that are shared between human and chimp. not about nested hiearchy. why the creation scenario is better? because only the creation scenario can explain the existence of living creatures and only the creation model can explain how ervs were made in the first place. evolution cant (we cant explain for instance how the viral genes evolved stepwise or how some creatures were able to lived before they got these ervs). this is why the creation scenario is the best explanation in this case.
You're claiming the tree I posted with 14 characteristics didn't have enough to be valid. Yet, the tree you posted with cars, trucks and vans listed even fewer characteristics.
No, I'm talking about the nested hierarchy. Come up with a better explanation for the pattern we see. Hint: finding a few data points which don't land in the pattern does not mean the pattern is not there, when there are literally tens of thousands of data points fitting the pattern.
That diagram is a lie no matter how many times you post it. It does not represent the true developmental history of those vehicles.but we find the same with designed objects. so the claim about nested hierarchy as evidence for non design is pointless:
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but we find the same with designed objects. so the claim about nested hierarchy as evidence for non design is pointless:
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i actually refer to the majority of parts among these vehicles.
let me make it simple: do you agree that a tipical bicycle is more similar to other bicycle then to a car?
but we find the same with designed objects. so the claim about nested hierarchy as evidence for non design is pointless:
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On the diagram you posted you referred to things like mudflaps and "stairs". You think those are major parts of vehicles?
Again, you're trying to change the subject.
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The key here is 'repeatedly', they are just going to argue this in circles, that much is obvious.were?
Are you talking to the pot or the kettle?The key here is 'repeatedly', they are just going to argue this in circles, that much is obvious.
no. i just show them as a part of the nested hierarchy.
no at all.
i want to show you that its also true for the majority of parts.
so it will be easier if i choose a bicycle for start.
The key here is 'repeatedly', they are just going to argue this in circles, that much is obvious.
i actually refer to the majority of parts among these vehicles.
but we find the same with designed objects. so the claim about nested hierarchy as evidence for non design is pointless:
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I have no idea what you are even trying to argue.
were?