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It developed from an ape ancestor species.
No, you're denying it. Not the same thing.
Questioning it would require that you actually provide evidence that counters it.
Simple, humanity wasn't created, it evolved.
And no, you are trying to play semantic games and are questioning evolution. You are not questioning any aspect of creation at all.
This would be much clearer if you would use proper terminology, but then you know that. You know you would have lost long ago.
You are free to have your personal views. And, we are free to point out how your views are indeed; "personal" and not based on the TOE or what is says.
IMO, this has been pointed out quite well, but you can keep on if you like, as that is more a reflection on you personally, than it is on what the TOE states or does not state.
We all can keep it on, can't we? You present your views, I'll present mine and we'll all be happy?
No, humanity was created to exist where it had never existed before.
I don't question evolution, I question certain creationist views, i.e., Darwinist creationism.
The terminology should reflect the various creationist views.
This is getting deep.........No, humanity was created to exist where it had never existed before.
I don't question evolution, I question certain creationist views, i.e., Darwinist creationism.
Sorry, justlook does not want to debate the subject. He would rather run away and play semantic games.This is getting deep.........
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This is getting deep.........
Originally Posted by Subduction Zone
Originally Posted by justlookinlaSimple, humanity wasn't created, it evolved.
No, humanity was created to exist where it had never existed before.Dear LittleLambofJesus,
Some all knowing Evols naively tell us that Humans evolved but God tells us that the LORD made man with His Own Hands. Gen 2:4-7 Wonder if the Godless Evols want Christians to actually believe them INSTEAD of God? Since they have everything else wrong, I suppose they do. God Bless you, and thank you for your service in fighting the evil and darkness of this world.
In Love,
Aman
Please, evidence please. Isn't it sacrilege to misuse the Bible? Too bad you can't be reported for that.
Dear SZ, Evols cannot understand evidence unless it agrees with their False Theory of Evolism. They have eyes which cannot see and ears which cannot hear. I really feel sorry for them and their certain future. God Bless you, and help you to see His Truth.
In Love,
Aman
Dear SZ, Evols cannot understand evidence unless it agrees with their False Theory of Evolism. They have eyes which cannot see and ears which cannot hear. I really feel sorry for them and their certain future. God Bless you, and help you to see His Truth.
In Love,
Aman
Doesn't matter how special I think humanity is, humanity didn't exist at one time, now it does. It was created somehow, somewhere, at some time. The issue is creationism.
Dear LittleLambofJesus,Some all knowing Evols naively tell us that Humans evolved but God tells us that the LORD made man with His Own Hands.
Wonder if the Godless Evols want Christians to actually believe them INSTEAD of God?
I vacillate between questioning your honesty or your ability to comprehend simple sentences. It is obvious to anyone who can read that creationism is not represented in the definition for Darwinism. Case closed.Yes I did. The creation concepts are very well presented in the Darwinist view of how humanity was created.
Another reading comprehension problem. You claim that they are being taught that there is not God behind evolution. I asked you to provide evidence in the form of an approved lesson plan or a textbook. You, of course, simply reiterated your baseless assumption and then shifted the burden of proof to me. I can tell you that it is extremely unlikely that a god is mentioned in lessons on evolution, either as helping or not existing. To support my contention, I would have to provide you with every lesson plan and every textbook used in science classes all over our country. To support your contention, all you have to do is provide one lesson plan or one textbook. You can't do that then your assertion is not worth the pixels we're using to read it.There is no other impetus allowed or presented other than the naturalistic impetus for all of life we observe today. The view that naturalistic processes alone, completely, totally, solely, only are needed to create humanity is at the very core of the inherently atheistic Darwinist creationist view. I can find no other impetus allowed, permitted or considered other than the inherently atheistic Darwinist creationist view. If you know of any, I'd certainly be interested in seeing them.
Evidence for common descent is also evidence for common descent without the intervention of an outside entity.Nope, it's the truth. Science has not found evidence that humanity is totally, completely, solely, totally the creation of naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago. Post it, if you think it has. Remember, don't respond with your typical common descent evasion, remember the issue is about what, or who, created humanity where humanity did not exist before.
Find a definition of creationism that does not mention the divine or a god. Then you might have a leg to stand on. They are being taught that humanity developed from an ancestor ape species via evolution. Gods are not mentioned as being present or being absent. So, it's not creationism.Yes they are. Humanity did not exist at a point in time, now it exists. This existence of humanity is only explained by the naturalistic mechanisms creating humanity from a single life form of long long ago according to the Darwinist creationism model being presented in schools.
It can't be both. Learn the definitions used in this controversy and you will end the conjecture that you are either a dishonest or not too bright.Sure it's a creationist viewpoint. An inherently atheistic viewpoint.
The only reason I am writing this again is for anyone reading to see your misrepresentation clearly. Here goes.Exactly. The mention is that the only explanation, the only impetus needed to create humanity, is that you, children, are the result of entirely naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago. And then they're taught the error that there is evidence for the creationist view.
Then you don't accept the view that there was a divine act of creation that ensured the development of modern species through mutation and natural selection? That's my definition for "Darwinist creationism" and until some official definition is provided, when I see that phase, I will comprehend it by my definition. BTW, I take issue with your associating atheism with Darwinist creationism.Depends on one's view of creation and evolution. I accept evolution. I don't accept the inherently atheistic viewpoint of Darwinist creationism.
So you don't have a problem with what is being taught in school? Why are you complaining then?Nothing. Why replace it with anything?
Just like chemistry and auto mechanics.They are taught that all of the variety and complexity of life we observe today is the result, totally, completely, only, solely by naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago. I've pointed this out probabaly a hundred times now. The message is clear, God isn't needed or allowed or permitted or accepted in the creation of the complex and varied life forms we observe today. It's an inherently atheistic viewpoint of creation.
Not true...you know it...so, it's a lie.Ignoring your continual mockery, the fact remains, not a single shred of evidence is given that only naturalistic mechanisms created all the complex and varied life forms we observe today.
No..no. It is my fault. When faced with behavior like yours, I tend to choose the lower road after a bit. You recall that I was decent to you for quite a while, but you kept up the trolling behavior. I just wanted others to know that this was about you as an individual not your claimed religion or your unstated belief regarding evolution.Right, your behavior is my fault, not yours. I understand.
You mean:Two words. Darwinist creationism.
I don't mind. I don't ignore people, that's reserved for cowards. If I lose a debate...I lose. No skin off my back and I may learn something....even from you.You will continue to see those. Unless you ignore me, of course.
How did humanity come into existence. You're not answering that.Yes, it developed from ancestor species that stretch all the way back to the first life form. That life form came into existence somehow. What caused that? I think it was the processes of chemistry.
Ok...evidence?You're right, I deny the view that humanity was created by entirely, solely, completely naturalistic mechanisms acting on a life form from long long ago.
So, most of your conversations go like this:Not true. You make a claim, I question the claim and either agree or disagree.
You: I believe that the rapture occurs before the 7 year tribulation.
Him: I believe that the rapture occurs when the beast defiles the new temple.
You: I question your claim...goodbye.
If that is how it works, then why are you still here? You could have finished up on your first post.
Again, no. You do not understand evidence. There is undeniable evidence for evolution and evolution only. Please watch your language.
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