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Originally Posted by juvenissun
Absolutely not.Does that mean something logical to you will become illogical to a faithful?
No. The essence of faith is evidence.
Human are not stupid. You are not wiser than others
So, faith in God's existence is no different than believing your car will start in the morning?No. The essence of faith is evidence.
Human are not stupid. You are not wiser than others
So, all things logical to you ARE also logical to a faithful.
Then you are not better than a faithful.
So, faith in God's existence is no different than believing your car will start in the morning?
On what grounds can you assert this?
Er..no and yes.
No because some faithful fail to comprehend actual logic, so to them, something that is actually logical is in their minds illogical.
Yes that anything that is logical, is actually logical.
I never said I was.
I don't know any such example. Would you give one?
To both of your questions, the answer is "experience".
Evidence comes from knowledge and experience.
Sure,
The rejection of belief in X is entirely different to the belief that X does not exist.
There are perhaps more examples of the reciprocal of my statement, eg something that is actually illogical is in their minds logical.
No no. I am expecting an example:
Something you think is logical, but is illogical to a faithful.
My argument is that such example does not exist. So a faithful is at least as logical as you are.
I am a faithful. It seems I am more logical than you are.
To both of your questions, the answer is "experience".
Evidence comes from knowledge and experience.
So, faith in God's existence is no different than believing your car will start in the morning?
I gave you an example, you didnt acknowledge it, do you accept the logic in my example? If you do then I will offer you another example?
Your example does not illustrate your point.
You sir are beginning to form a predictive pattern, I have asked one simple question which only requires a simple yes or a no answer.
You have responded with your own personal opinions and ask me questions instead.
I have answered the questions you have put to me.
You have failed to answer EVERY question put to you.
Your responses are evasive and irrelevant.
Please just answer yes or no, elaboration on your yes or no is optional.
Thank you.
juvenissun said:I said you give a bad question.
juvenissun said:The way you put it makes a logical person have no choice.
juvenissun said:So why bother to ask?
juvenissun said:And why should I bother to answer it except pointing out the bad logic in the question?
Please explain what is bad about this question?
" If you were given a convincing argument based on empiricism and/or logical reasoning that your religion was false, would you abandon your religion?"
Have no choice in what?
Because it is a valid logical question.
You havent pointed out any bad logic in the question, you have avoided the question by asking me off topic questions.
juvenissun said:You give a logical question. The only logical answer is yes.
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