A Question for Tall73...

[freeindeed2]

Woob! So you make six reports in a matter of minutes!???

Again, you've made it clear that you're not here for honest discussion, rather to make reports.

 

[tall73]

I don't think you will find non-adventists as Biblically astute generally as many are in the adventist church. Some have worshipped in Sunday churches all their lives and not fully realized the Sabbath truth. They come to church and accept what ever the preacher says as the gospel truth from God . Not knowing fully what is written. When they come across the truth they have a decision to make as we all do. Some accept it some reject it for various reasons. The IJ is not taught directly from the Bible as the Sabbath truth is. In order to come to the position our church has on it you have to conclude things based on the whole Bible and not very many specific texts. That's the reason I don't accept all of it the way we as a church do. I believe there will be an investigative judgement but at this point for me to think that Christ's action to fulfill the DOA in heaven had to wait until 1844 is hard to justify by a multitude of scripture. The great disappointment's influence on the IJ as we currently accept it is inescapable I think.

First I agree with your assessment on the DOA fulfillment etc.

But Jim, I cannot agree that most Christians don't study the Bible. I find many both in Adventism and out of it that do study, and many that do not.

If non-Adventists don't study then why are our scholars in a hurry to go get their degrees from non-Adventist schools (apart from the great conspiracy theory).

I just can't buy that being the reason. The IJ is an historically derived doctrine, developing out of events in our church, NOT from a plain reading of the Bible.

What are talking about specifically here?

A. The shut-door was originally part of the understanding.

B. The IJ itself was not part of the original sanctuary doctrine and James initially rejected it. That came about a bit later when the delay dragged on.

 

[freeindeed2]

8 reports now???

 

[NightEternal]

Woob! So you make six reports in a matter of minutes!???

Again, you've made it clear that you're not here for honest discussion, rather to make reports.

I'm outta here. Who needs this garbage? You should probably do the same Free. Let him hang himself.

Go ahead and report me Woob. What do I care, you have already caused me 2 sitewide violations that will stay with me for a full year.

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[Jimlarmore]

First I agree with your assessment on the DOA fulfillment etc.

But Jim, I cannot agree that most Christians don't study the Bible. I find many both in Adventism and out of it that do study, and many that do not.

If non-Adventists don't study then why are our scholars in a hurry to go get their degrees from non-Adventist schools (apart from the great conspiracy theory).

I don't think I can discuss this with you here friend. Let's take it some place else, sorry.


God Bless
Jim Larmore

 

[tall73]

Woob I just finished reading the new posts here and I was all set to answer your latest. But I will not participate in this thread any longer if you don't stop threatening people.

They have every right to discuss things here. I want to discuss what they are asking. It relates to my leaving and I see no reason for you to report people into oblivion or run them off.

So you have two choices:

1. Let them discuss

2. Don't let them, and I take my general discussion to another thread where I may or may not answer you at all.

 

[woobadooba]

Woob I just finished reading the new posts here and I was all set to answer your latest. But I will not participate in this thread any longer if you don't stop threatening people.

They have every right to discuss things here. I want to discuss what they are asking. It relates to my leaving and I see no reason for you to report people into oblivion or run them off.

So you have two choices:

1. Let them discuss

2. Don't let them, and I take my general discussion to another thread where I may or may not answer you at all.

If it relates to why you left then that is fine. But the posts that have been reported clearly do not address this matter.

It is not an issue of running people off, but one of keeping the purpose of this thread flowing in a direction that will bring its objective to fruition.

If you choose to back out of it at this point then that is fine with me. But as the OP of this thread I do have a right to request that it stays on topic. I have politely requested for this several times, and was ignored. It is disrespectful of people to do this, and I am not going to tolerate it.

I have spent a great deal of time preparing responses to your posts, and do not want to see my posts or your posts being buried beneath a bunch of off-topic posts. I think it is fair that it should be that way too, don't you?

 

[freeindeed2]

If it relates to why you left then that is fine. But the posts that have been reported clearly do not address this matter.

It is not an issue of running people off, but one of keeping the purpose of this thread flowing in a direction that will bring its objective to fruition.

If you choose to back out of it at this point then that is fine with me. But as the OP of this thread I do have a right to request that it stays on topic. I have politely requested for this several times, and was ignored. It is disrespectful of people to do this, and I am not going to tolerate it.

We will not tolerate you bullying the forum. This is public forum and it is the debate and discussion forum. We have addressed points brought up in THIS discussion and you are reporting those you do not like. I have contacted ALL of the mods and will not allow you to threaten me or others off of this forum, especially since you announced you were leaving and then came back AGAIN with your slew of reporting tactics.

Maybe they ban me from the forum, maybe they don't. But what you're doing IS NOT RIGHT, and it is certainly NOT in the spirit of discussion, which this forum is designed for.

We can all do the same thing you're doing, but I'm hoping that the mods will realize what's going on so we can all get back to having actual discussion rather than having to waste time and space discussing the multiple reports you are making.

If they don't view it that way then I for one will appeal above their heads. If that doesn't work then the only thing we can do is the same thing you're already doing - report all your posts. I suppose we could just leave, but I'm not willing to let go of the year I've invested here and the 4000+ posts. So back off and get with the program! I will not stand down to a bully, and you've made it apparent that you are the bully.

In Christ alone...

 

[NightEternal]

And all the people said:

 

[tall73]

If it relates to why you left then that is fine. But the posts that have been reported clearly do not address this matter.

It is not an issue of running people off, but one of keeping the purpose of this thread flowing in a direction that will bring its objective to fruition.

If you choose to back out of it at this point then that is fine with me. But as the OP of this thread I do have a right to request that it stays on topic. I have politely requested for this several times, and was ignored. It is disrespectful of people to do this, and I am not going to tolerate it.

I have spent a great deal of time preparing responses to your posts, and do not want to see my posts or your posts being buried beneath a bunch of off-topic posts. I think it is fair that it should be that way too, don't you?

Asking them to stay on topic is fine. I have done that. Making a new thread and suggesting they use it for way off topic posts is fine. I have done that too.

But reporting them for the purpose of getting them to leave so that you can have your own discussion is not fine, and I won't be a party to it.

Since you continue to blame everyone else then I am done here.

I will start a new thread to address some of the issues. That way you cannot just lock it when it doesn't go your way.

 

[woobadooba]

Asking them to stay on topic is fine. I have done that. Making a new thread and suggesting they use it for way off topic posts is fine. I have done that too.

But reporting them for the purpose of getting them to leave so that you can have your own discussion is not fine, and I won't be a party to it.

Since you continue to blame everyone else then I am done here.

I will start a new thread to address some of the issues. That way you cannot just lock it when it doesn't go your way.

Please do not assume such things about me. I am not reporting them to get them to leave. My PM to you should have cleared the matter up as to why I am so frustrated about this. Did you read it?

Actually, I would like them to remain. But I want them to stay on topic. I don't think that is much to ask. An occasional off-topic remark that is made in brief is also fine with me as long as it does not compromise the integrity of the topic. But that is not what has been happening here.

Since you continue to blame everyone else then I am done here.

I will start a new thread to address some of the issues. That way you cannot just lock it when it doesn't go your way.

Whatever...


have a nice day.

 

[woobadooba]

Since Tall no longer wishes to discuss this matter with me here I am requesting that the mods lock this thread.

 

[longhair75]

Closed at the request of the OP