A Question for Catholics.

[Salvator Mundi]

Hi,

I have a question for Catholics. How do you justify God redeeming everyone and especially Eve, if he simply created a new eve (aka Virgin Mary). What happens to the old Eve? Is that redemption if you simply discard the old one and give another woman the role as the mother of living? I don't want any hard and defined answers if there isn't one. But I just thought it's something to think about. IF you sinned and God simply replaced you, would you term that as redeeming you?

 

[Samantha8824]

As a woman who is returning to the Faith, I believe regardless of what Eve did or didn’t do concerning the introduction of “Sin” God’s human creation, her purpose was and is served as a sacrifice and lesson to all mankind. Mary, as we know her to be, also has served and will forever serve her divine purpose to all who seek her grace and favor. Yet, as Paul the Apostle warns us to: “Workout your own salvation with fear and trembling“ Philippians 2:12, the work and the labor of our Salvation is through Jesus Christ. Eve and Mary are the chronological and historical pathways through which God will manifest His Will in our lives. The answer you seek my dear isn’t easy or “simple“ per se. However it’s not impossible to “Ask, Seek & Knock” through prayer and Scripture reading to receive the answers that will make the most sense to you. I say this because in His infinite and incomprehensible Wisdom, God will work with each of us separately to find the answers we seek.
I hope this helps, love.

 

[PloverWing]

Welcome to CF!

This is the Anglican/Episcopal forum. Are you looking for a specifically Anglican answer to how we view Eve and Mary? We tend to vary in our views of Mary (Anglicanism is a big tent), so you'll get a variety of answers here.

chevyontheriver has given you a good answer from a Catholic point of view over in the Catholic forum.

 

[Salvator Mundi]

(Sigh! Still can't navigate this site)
PloverWing, You seem to have an answer from Anglican point of view!
Please do share!

 

[linux.poet]

AMBASSADOR HAT​

@Samantha8824, this is the Anglican subforum. Please do not teach in answer to a question when you are of a Baptist faith group, in this particular subforum area.

Congregational Forum Restrictions​

Members who do not truly share the core beliefs and teachings of a specific congregational forum may post in fellowship or ask questions, but they may not teach or debate within the forum.

Since Salvator is posting here, he would like answers from Angelicans and Old Catholics. This should be respected.

 

[Samantha8824]

My apologies. I didn’t mean to upset you. I just wanted to help. That’s all. Have a blessed and peaceful weekend.

 

[PloverWing]

PloverWing, You seem to have an answer from Anglican point of view!
Please do share!

In my conversations with Catholics, and in reading some Catholic writings, I see in Catholic spirituality a sense of Mary acting as the mother of all of us in the church. I'm happy for those who find their prayer life spiritually nourished by that image, and they would certainly be welcome in my Episcopal church, but that is not how I view Mary. I don't look to her as my spiritual mother, or as the church's spiritual mother, which means I don't really see her as a replacement Eve.

Here is some of how I do see Mary: She is one of a handful of people in the Bible -- and one of the only women we're told about -- who receives a specific call from God to carry out a mission on God's behalf. Her call is much like that of the Old Testament prophets, with the angel Gabriel appearing directly to her. Like Moses and Isaiah, she says "yes" to God's call. But her call is to an action, rather than to words: she is called to be the Theotokos, the God-bearer, the person in whose body the Incarnation begins to happen, and the person charged with teaching the newly-born Incarnation of God how to become an adult human being.

Nobody is discarded. God knows us all by name and loves us all, from the first humans to Mary to right now.

 

[Samantha8824]

Good morning Salvator. Just want to wish you a very blessed and successful day and victorious week ahead. Hopefully no one will have an “issue“ with this simple and sincere sentiment of friendship. Many blessings to you and your family

 

[RileyG]

I'll be happy to answer this question in OBOB if you are interested. Here you can find some Anglican responses

God bless

 

[Salvator Mundi]

This sub-forum mentioned old catholics, so I posted my query here.

Riley G, do share your answer!

My thought experiments are even more weirder which I won't type them here... (Sophia and all)

I'll be happy to answer this question in OBOB if you are interested. Here you can find some Anglican responses

God bless

 

[RileyG]

This sub-forum mentioned old catholics, so I posted my query here.

Riley G, do share your answer!

My thought experiments are even more weirder which I won't type them here... (Sophia and all)

I am not Old Catholic, I am Roman Catholic. If you want to post in OBOB, I will share my views. This is an Anglican sub-forum.

God bless

 

[RileyG]

Maybe the OP isn't aware of what the Old Catholic Church is.

The Old Catholic Church separated from the Roman Catholic Church during the First Vatican Council. They reject papal infallibility, the Jesuits, and other things. Two groups exist: The Union of Utrecht and the Union of Scranton. They are in full communion with some Anglican Churches.

see here for more info:

Old Catholic Church - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org