A question about differences

[Anto9us]

I guess I AM a Tenor of the conversation -- even though I am not in the choir anymore

this is page 14 of this thread -- that began with an OP asking about

"differences between Southern baptists and Methodists"

Godzilla - the preacherinblack -- has not been around into his own thread for a handful of pages of responses now

and this thread has evolved or devolved into an OP-less hodge-podge

yet I think the disturbing issues of race relations
are involved in "southern Baptists vs Methodists"

I am in Waco Texas amidst a potload of Southern Baptists and there are many Methodists here also

I couldn't speculate whether the racism of the southern Baptists here could still beat up the racism of the Methodists

I wish Colin Powell would have been President; I don't like Obama not because of his color but because of his commitment to a far leftist agenda over and above a commitment to the nation he is supposedly leading, and especially a lack of commitment to securing our borders and an "apologetic stance" to those that are now beheading us (which is kind of hypocritical, seeing he will drone-bomb the bee-jesus out of 'em - just won't ever utter the words "Islamic Terrorist" even as heads are LITERALLY ROLLING off of the muslim blades)

So there are always uncomfortable social issues to discuss and maybe Methodism will always involve more than splitting hairs over predestination, baptism, and falling from grace

I would also say that I was thinking earlier today that I see my time spent in various other churches BESIDES Methodist as an ENRICHMENT to my Christian experience -- not as "being blown about by every wind of doctrine" or "being indecisive" or "changing faiths as fast as I change underwear"

and I wish we could use more than one "faith icon" - but rather put one up for every church we have had positive experiences in - use a whole handful of them

Raised Methodist - present at the ceremony in Dallas wherein the "United Methodist Church" was officially formed -- I have also been a part of Baptist - Lutheran - Episcopalian - non-denom charismatic - Roman Catholic - Unity -- and back into United Methodist

So I don't know about the tenor of the conversation - but Godzilla seems to have booked -- and we maybe talking amongst ourselves instead of enlightening Southern Baptists about Methodist beliefs

As far as Tenors - many years ago, they wanted me, Pavarotti, Carreras, and Placido Domingo to get together and do this project that was gonna be called THE FOUR TENORS.

The first night scheduled for a rehearsal -- I had a prior engagement and missed it -- AND THEM SUNUVAGUNS WENT ON WITHOUT ME!!

Called it THE THREE TENORS !!!

perhaps you saw it on TV

 

[circuitrider]

Excuse me, is that a log in your eye? You forgot to list the sins of the Christian Left while you were cataloging all the sins of the Christian Right.

While you are painting us all as racists for not liking Obama, how do you explain our support for Allen West, Ben Carson, Walter Williams, Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Herman Cain, just to name a few very popular Conservatives?

You missed my line about the cultural captivity of the left Bryan? Sure, left leaning Christians also have our own problems of cultural issue many of which were most prevalent when the whole culture hadn't swung so far to the right.

But right now what people don't notice, because of the rhetoric, is that Obama isn't a liberal at all. The liberal wing of the Dems are extremely disappointed with how few progressive policies he actually promoted or supported. And the Republicans have moved so far to the right that Ronald Reagan likely wouldn't be welcome in the new Rand Paul/Ted Cruz party since he'd be viewed as too moderate.

Also I NEVER painted all conservative Christians as racists. If you read what I posted I pointed to those who use racial slurs for him and those who slur him simply because he has a middle eastern sounding middle name. If that isn't you then you aren't the problem.

If you don't like Obama that is just fine. Just don't not like him because he is black or because his father wasn't from the US or whatever else that is personal rather than political.

 

[GraceSeeker]

Will the world ever run out of stones for us to throw at one another?

 

[Anto9us]

Never.

We must pile these stones up as ALTARS at every junction and give these places STRANGE NAMES as the Patriarchs did long ago.

Here I raise mine EBENEZER KRISKRINGLE -- and I pile on all the stones that WOULD HAVE BEEN THROWN at the woman caught in adultery -- but never were...

Merry Christmas to all!

(And Anto9us named that place "Beth Shear-Jashub" -
for he found a rock that would make a good pillow when he took a nap --

and that rock was too big to throw at anyone;

and he dreamed of a remnant that would return)

 

[Anto9us]

I voted for Bill Clinton twice and I voted for George W. Bush twice.

Those were not the only times when "my candidate" won.

I voted back there for Democrat Ann Richards for Governor of Texas and she won.

Wendy Davis inherited Ann Richards' shotgun and just now ran for Governor -- I voted for her but she got slaughtered.

But I will speak of politics no more. CF Staff awarded me a "3-day vacation" last time I got wound up about it.