Indeed. Did you read the pages in those links, to Francis Collins?
No
Why not? Do you not place value on what another Christian, of his credentials, has to say on scientific matters?
If it is proven, why have you dropped in here to preach? Why isn't it in the news?
So you think I have stepped into your world here to preach to you, weird I thought this was a forum to challenge each other about our beliefs of Creation and Evolution. If you think that is preaching then what would you consider conversation? You talking to yourself???
Preach
verb
present participle: preaching
1. deliver a sermon or religious address to an assembled group of people
Post # 304. That was preaching, not a conversation.
Declaring that the bible and creation are proven is not conversation.
You are not challenging, you are declaring yourself right. That is not conversation.
Hold fast, Kemosabe. Who is this "us" that you speak of? I'm not the one hearing voices.
I do not hear voices, what makes you think I do? Are you loosing it?
Did you not say that your god talks to you? He doesn't talk to me. I was asking who you meant when you used the word "us".
Was that an attempt to talk sciency?
Yea, this is my way of lowering myself to your level.
Sinicism is very childish. So when playing with children we must play like a child.
Cynicism.
An inclination to believe that people are motivated purely by self-interest;
Not childish at all, dismissing the implied insults. I am here discuss, and explore reality, and to support, justify, and provide evidence for my claims where I make them. I do not think you are here for that, judging from the content of your posts.
The analogy fails, as the instantiation of the cosmos was followed by an expansion, not an explosion, of space. By your analogy, we are somewhere inside of the stick of dynamite, which has expanded so far that we can no longer see the sides, as they have moved beyond the light horizon. Does that clarify it for you?
No, you must not have read all of my points. Are you saying the Big Bang was just a little POP and then the universe just uzzed slowly to where it is now. That is new, you must publish your theory and all will see your brilliance.
This was published many years ago.
"In physical cosmology, cosmic inflation, cosmological inflation, or just inflation is the extremely rapid exponential expansion of the early universe by a factor of at least 1078 in volume, driven by a negative-pressure vacuum energy density.[1] The inflationary epoch comprises the first part of the electroweak epoch following the grand unification epoch. It lasted from 10−36 seconds after the Big Bang to sometime between 10−33 and 10−32 seconds. Following the inflationary period, the universe continued to expand, but at a slower rate."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_(cosmology)#Overview
I am referring to science and you know it.
If you were, it was in an empty rhetoric fashion, unsubstantiated.
You are standing by the money making agenda theories and I choose to look at facts.
Scientific theories can make some people and companies very rich, for sure, but if the underlying science is not robust, they won't. Do you have something against capitalism?
As for money making agenda theories, have you looked at religions take in every year? And no taxes!
"While some people may be bothered by the fact that there are pastors who live in multimillion dollar homes, this is old news to most. But here is what should bother you about these expensive homes: You are helping to pay for them! You pay for them indirectly, the same way local, state, and federal governments in the United States subsidize religion — to the tune of about $71 billion every year."
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friend...cost-of-religious-tax-exemptions-71000000000/
All that for an industry that has no requirement to produce any evidence that their (contradictory) claims are true. And you are poking your finger at science? Go figure.
That is not what I said. Do try for some intellectual integrity.
You said Atheist and evolutionist do not necessarily go together did you not? They go together as far as I see, if not then why or how?
No, that is not what I said. Go back, try again.
I saw in your profile that you are a businessman. Is this how you interact with your customers?
Yes, on occasion I treat customers the same way and life is good. My customers love the interaction and if they don't they don't come back then life goes on. Everything in balance though and I have a lot of customers of every race, gender, ethnicity and sexual preference
You preach at your atheist customers, and tell them how your religion is proven?
Whom better than someone that has been a victim themselves of religious intolerance?
In what way would you say he is "evil"? Please be civil, and keep in mind he may be a member of this forum. The floor is yours.
I would rescind my statement about Mickey if he stopped his war against Christianity and gave Atheists a good name like some other Atheists out there.
I did not ask you to retract your statement, but to
substantiate it. How is he "evil"? It appears that he is only going after those in violation of federal laws.
Almost forgot: How many times do you think our galaxy has rotated since its formation?