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Wednesday, December 7, 2016, 9:42 p.m. – The Lord Jesus put in mind the song “Unless You Are Born Again.” Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. I read Acts 26 (Select vv. NIV).

Background (Summary Acts 25:1-26:11)

Paul stood trial before Festus, but he ended up appealing to Caesar when Festus wanted to send him back to Jerusalem to stand trial. Then, Festus was visited by King Agrippa, who wished to hear Paul’s case, so Paul appeared before the king, and he was given permission to speak for himself.

In Paul’s defense, he shared with the king his testimony. He told him how he had formerly lived according to the strictest sect of the Jewish faith, as a Pharisee. And, how he was now on trial because of his hope in what God had promised the Jews, with regard to the coming of their Messiah (Christ). As well, he communicated to him how he had formerly been a fierce opponent and persecutor of followers of Jesus Christ, and how he had put many of them in prison, and had even voted in favor of them being put to death.

So, Paul was a Pharisee. So, what is a Pharisee? In Bible times, a Pharisee was a person of a Jewish sect who was deeply religious, who believed the scriptures, but who also followed many man-made traditions, to which they gave equal authority as they did scripture with regard to obedience. They were represented on the Sanhedrin, the Jewish ruling council, and a number of them were also priests. The Pharisees were some of Jesus’ fiercest opponents, who were party to his being put to death on a cross.

Jesus often had words with them about their hypocrisy and how they worked hard at looking good on the outside, but how inside they were full of wickedness. They were self-righteous and egotistical, who judged others hypocritically. Jesus said that they honored God with their lips, but their hearts were far from him, and that that they worshiped God in vain, because their teachings were man-made rules (See: Matt. 15:1-9). Today the term “Pharisee” is use to describe “a sanctimonious, self-righteous, or hypocritical person” (dictionary.com). But, Jesus met one of these Pharisees on his way to persecute Christians in Damascus, and he transformed his life. Amen!

A Divine Appointment (vv. 12-18)

“On one of these journeys I was going to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests. About noon, King Agrippa, as I was on the road, I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, blazing around me and my companions. We all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’

“Then I asked, ‘Who are you, Lord?’

“‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,’ the Lord replied. ‘Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a witness of what you have seen and will see of me. I will rescue you from your own people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’

This passage of scripture, and testimony of Paul’s, not only describes the assignment (commission) given to Paul by God/Jesus, but it also explains what Jesus did in Paul’s life, as well as it defines the essence of the gospel of our salvation. Paul had his blinded eyes opened, not just physically, but spiritually. He was turned away from his former way of life - from his wickedness and the control Satan had over his life - and he was turned to follow the Lord Jesus in obedience to his will for his life. Thus, he received forgiveness of his sins, and he became a follower of Christ, and a member of his body, and God purified his heart and made him a new man.

And, God can do this in the lives of many “Pharisees” today who appear righteous on the outside, but who, inside, are full of wickedness and given over to evil deeds. Yet, they lie to themselves, and convince themselves that they are ok, when their hearts are far from God. They fool themselves, and they fool others, but they can’t fool God. They are good at going through the motions and appearing as though they are followers of God, when truly they are driven by self, and their hearts are given over to fulfilling the desires of their sinful flesh. They will even use God and their religion as a cover-up for evil, when it suits their purposes. They are always performing for the crowd, but God sees what is truly in their hearts. Yet, as God transformed the heart of Paul (formerly Saul), he can change the heart of any “Pharisee.” Amen!

Repent and Turn to God (vv. 19-23)

“So then, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the vision from heaven. First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and then to the Gentiles, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds. That is why some Jews seized me in the temple courts and tried to kill me. But God has helped me to this very day; so I stand here and testify to small and great alike. I am saying nothing beyond what the prophets and Moses said would happen— that the Messiah would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would bring the message of light to his own people and to the Gentiles.”

Paul fulfilled the commission given to him on the road to Damascus. He became a preacher of the Word, and one who taught people that they must forsake their former lives of living for sin and self (repent), and they must turn to God/Jesus in obedience to his will for their lives, thus proving their repentance by their deeds. He not only taught it, but he lived it!

Yet, we are not saved by works. We can do nothing to earn or to deserve our own salvation. Our good deeds will never outweigh our bad deeds, no matter how hard we try. We can’t work our way into heaven on our own terms. Yet, faith in Jesus Christ is not absent of works, yet not works of the flesh, but works of the Spirit. In other words, if we say we have been saved from our sins by God’s grace, and yet we continue to conduct our lives in the darkness (in wickedness), the Bible says we are liars (1 Jn. 1:6). Paul said that if we conduct our lives according to our flesh, we will die in our sins, but if by the Spirit we are putting to death the deeds of the flesh, we will live (with Christ for eternity) (See: Ro. 8:1-14).

In other words, when we believe in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of our lives, if our faith is genuine, a spiritual transformation of the Spirit of God takes place in our hearts. We are crucified with Christ in death to sin, and we are resurrected with Christ in newness of life, “created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness” (Eph. 4:24; cf. Ro. 6:1-23). This is what it means to be “born again” or “born from above.” Jesus didn’t die just to forgive us our sins, but to deliver us out of slavery to sin, and to make us into servants of his righteousness. Yet, we must cooperate with this work of the Spirit in our lives. When we believe in Jesus we don’t become puppets on a string. We have to yield control of our lives over to God, and willingly submit our lives over to doing what he has commanded us to do.

True and Reasonable (vv. 24-29)

At this point Festus interrupted Paul’s defense. “You are out of your mind, Paul!” he shouted. “Your great learning is driving you insane.”

“I am not insane, most excellent Festus,” Paul replied. “What I am saying is true and reasonable. The king is familiar with these things, and I can speak freely to him. I am convinced that none of this has escaped his notice, because it was not done in a corner. King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know you do.”

Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?”

Paul replied, “Short time or long—I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains.”

When we, like Paul, share our testimonies of faith in Jesus Christ, and how God transformed our lives away from sin and to walking in obedience to his commands, and we share, too, that this is what God’s Word teaches we must do, we may, as well, be called ‘crazy’ or out of touch with reality. And, yet, the gospel of Jesus Christ is completely rational and reasonable. If Jesus died that we might die to sin and live to righteousness (1 Pet. 2:24), which is what he did, then it seems reasonable that faith in Him would mean we die to sin and live to righteousness. And, yet, many preachers today are telling people they don’t have to repent of their sins, and they don’t have to obey God, but they can still have their ticket into heaven, and that God requires absolutely nothing of them at all. Oh, how wrong!

And, yet, we should not give up hope that many people will believe in Jesus Christ in the way scripture teaches we must believe. We have to hold out hope that blinded eyes will be opened, and that many will be turned from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they might receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified (made holy) by faith in Jesus Christ. And, we have to believe that God can change anyone, even our persecutors, and even those who live like Pharisees in pretending they are followers of God, when they are not. He can save even the worst of sinners, because he saved us. Amen!

So, if you have someone in your life for whom you have been praying for salvation and deliverance from sin, don’t give up hope. Keep believing that they, too, will be born again of the Spirit of God, and that they will be transformed from living a life of sin to living a life yielded to their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Unless You Are Born Again
An Original Work / November 3, 2013

Based off John 3:1-21

Nicodemus came to Jesus.
He acknowledged God was with Him.
Jesus said, “You can’t see heaven
Unless you are born again.”

“How can a man be born when he’s old?
Can he enter into his mother’s womb?”
Jesus answered, “Flesh is flesh,
So of the Spirit, you must be.”

Jesus said to Nicodemus,
“You’re a teacher, and yet you don’t
Understand of what I tell you,
Because you will not believe.

“For God so loved the world that He gave
His one and His only Son for your sin.
So, whoever believes in Him
Has eternal life in heav’n.

“Light has come into the world,
But human beings love the darkness,
Because their deeds are so evil,
So in truth, they stand condemned.

“Everyone who practices evil
Fears that the Light will expose his sin.
Yet, whoever lives his life by the Light
Does so through his God.”

 

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Wednesday, December 7, 2016, 9:42 p.m. – The Lord Jesus put in mind the song “Unless You Are Born Again.” Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. I read Acts 26 (Select vv. NIV).

Background (Summary Acts 25:1-26:11)

Paul stood trial before Festus, but he ended up appealing to Caesar when Festus wanted to send him back to Jerusalem to stand trial. Then, Festus was visited by King Agrippa, who wished to hear Paul’s case, so Paul appeared before the king, and he was given permission to speak for himself.

In Paul’s defense, he shared with the king his testimony. He told him how he had formerly lived according to the strictest sect of the Jewish faith, as a Pharisee. And, how he was now on trial because of his hope in what God had promised the Jews, with regard to the coming of their Messiah (Christ). As well, he communicated to him how he had formerly been a fierce opponent and persecutor of followers of Jesus Christ, and how he had put many of them in prison, and had even voted in favor of them being put to death.

So, Paul was a Pharisee. So, what is a Pharisee? In Bible times, a Pharisee was a person of a Jewish sect who was deeply religious, who believed the scriptures, but who also followed many man-made traditions, to which they gave equal authority as they did scripture with regard to obedience. They were represented on the Sanhedrin, the Jewish ruling council, and a number of them were also priests. The Pharisees were some of Jesus’ fiercest opponents, who were party to his being put to death on a cross.

Jesus often had words with them about their hypocrisy and how they worked hard at looking good on the outside, but how inside they were full of wickedness. They were self-righteous and egotistical, who judged others hypocritically. Jesus said that they honored God with their lips, but their hearts were far from him, and that that they worshiped God in vain, because their teachings were man-made rules (See: Matt. 15:1-9). Today the term “Pharisee” is use to describe “a sanctimonious, self-righteous, or hypocritical person” (dictionary.com). But, Jesus met one of these Pharisees on his way to persecute Christians in Damascus, and he transformed his life. Amen!

A Divine Appointment (vv. 12-18)

“On one of these journeys I was going to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests. About noon, King Agrippa, as I was on the road, I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, blazing around me and my companions. We all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’

“Then I asked, ‘Who are you, Lord?’

“‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,’ the Lord replied. ‘Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a witness of what you have seen and will see of me. I will rescue you from your own people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’

This passage of scripture, and testimony of Paul’s, not only describes the assignment (commission) given to Paul by God/Jesus, but it also explains what Jesus did in Paul’s life, as well as it defines the essence of the gospel of our salvation. Paul had his blinded eyes opened, not just physically, but spiritually. He was turned away from his former way of life - from his wickedness and the control Satan had over his life - and he was turned to follow the Lord Jesus in obedience to his will for his life. Thus, he received forgiveness of his sins, and he became a follower of Christ, and a member of his body, and God purified his heart and made him a new man.

And, God can do this in the lives of many “Pharisees” today who appear righteous on the outside, but who, inside, are full of wickedness and given over to evil deeds. Yet, they lie to themselves, and convince themselves that they are ok, when their hearts are far from God. They fool themselves, and they fool others, but they can’t fool God. They are good at going through the motions and appearing as though they are followers of God, when truly they are driven by self, and their hearts are given over to fulfilling the desires of their sinful flesh. They will even use God and their religion as a cover-up for evil, when it suits their purposes. They are always performing for the crowd, but God sees what is truly in their hearts. Yet, as God transformed the heart of Paul (formerly Saul), he can change the heart of any “Pharisee.” Amen!

Repent and Turn to God (vv. 19-23)

“So then, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the vision from heaven. First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and then to the Gentiles, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds. That is why some Jews seized me in the temple courts and tried to kill me. But God has helped me to this very day; so I stand here and testify to small and great alike. I am saying nothing beyond what the prophets and Moses said would happen— that the Messiah would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would bring the message of light to his own people and to the Gentiles.”

Paul fulfilled the commission given to him on the road to Damascus. He became a preacher of the Word, and one who taught people that they must forsake their former lives of living for sin and self (repent), and they must turn to God/Jesus in obedience to his will for their lives, thus proving their repentance by their deeds. He not only taught it, but he lived it!

Yet, we are not saved by works. We can do nothing to earn or to deserve our own salvation. Our good deeds will never outweigh our bad deeds, no matter how hard we try. We can’t work our way into heaven on our own terms. Yet, faith in Jesus Christ is not absent of works, yet not works of the flesh, but works of the Spirit. In other words, if we say we have been saved from our sins by God’s grace, and yet we continue to conduct our lives in the darkness (in wickedness), the Bible says we are liars (1 Jn. 1:6). Paul said that if we conduct our lives according to our flesh, we will die in our sins, but if by the Spirit we are putting to death the deeds of the flesh, we will live (with Christ for eternity) (See: Ro. 8:1-14).

In other words, when we believe in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of our lives, if our faith is genuine, a spiritual transformation of the Spirit of God takes place in our hearts. We are crucified with Christ in death to sin, and we are resurrected with Christ in newness of life, “created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness” (Eph. 4:24; cf. Ro. 6:1-23). This is what it means to be “born again” or “born from above.” Jesus didn’t die just to forgive us our sins, but to deliver us out of slavery to sin, and to make us into servants of his righteousness. Yet, we must cooperate with this work of the Spirit in our lives. When we believe in Jesus we don’t become puppets on a string. We have to yield control of our lives over to God, and willingly submit our lives over to doing what he has commanded us to do.

True and Reasonable (vv. 24-29)

At this point Festus interrupted Paul’s defense. “You are out of your mind, Paul!” he shouted. “Your great learning is driving you insane.”

“I am not insane, most excellent Festus,” Paul replied. “What I am saying is true and reasonable. The king is familiar with these things, and I can speak freely to him. I am convinced that none of this has escaped his notice, because it was not done in a corner. King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know you do.”

Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?”

Paul replied, “Short time or long—I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains.”

When we, like Paul, share our testimonies of faith in Jesus Christ, and how God transformed our lives away from sin and to walking in obedience to his commands, and we share, too, that this is what God’s Word teaches we must do, we may, as well, be called ‘crazy’ or out of touch with reality. And, yet, the gospel of Jesus Christ is completely rational and reasonable. If Jesus died that we might die to sin and live to righteousness (1 Pet. 2:24), which is what he did, then it seems reasonable that faith in Him would mean we die to sin and live to righteousness. And, yet, many preachers today are telling people they don’t have to repent of their sins, and they don’t have to obey God, but they can still have their ticket into heaven, and that God requires absolutely nothing of them at all. Oh, how wrong!

And, yet, we should not give up hope that many people will believe in Jesus Christ in the way scripture teaches we must believe. We have to hold out hope that blinded eyes will be opened, and that many will be turned from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they might receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified (made holy) by faith in Jesus Christ. And, we have to believe that God can change anyone, even our persecutors, and even those who live like Pharisees in pretending they are followers of God, when they are not. He can save even the worst of sinners, because he saved us. Amen!

So, if you have someone in your life for whom you have been praying for salvation and deliverance from sin, don’t give up hope. Keep believing that they, too, will be born again of the Spirit of God, and that they will be transformed from living a life of sin to living a life yielded to their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Unless You Are Born Again
An Original Work / November 3, 2013

Based off John 3:1-21

Nicodemus came to Jesus.
He acknowledged God was with Him.
Jesus said, “You can’t see heaven
Unless you are born again.”

“How can a man be born when he’s old?
Can he enter into his mother’s womb?”
Jesus answered, “Flesh is flesh,
So of the Spirit, you must be.”

Jesus said to Nicodemus,
“You’re a teacher, and yet you don’t
Understand of what I tell you,
Because you will not believe.

“For God so loved the world that He gave
His one and His only Son for your sin.
So, whoever believes in Him
Has eternal life in heav’n.

“Light has come into the world,
But human beings love the darkness,
Because their deeds are so evil,
So in truth, they stand condemned.

“Everyone who practices evil
Fears that the Light will expose his sin.
Yet, whoever lives his life by the Light
Does so through his God.”



Thanks for your message it's a bit long and wordy for me but I get the gist of it. How many times have we all been guilty of acting like Pharisees! I shall stay alert, thank you.
 
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This means the most of us are just like the Pharisee

Are you speaking of most people who profess to be Christians? Or, are you speaking of most people who call themselves religious? For, if you are speaking of most professing Christians, then that is a sad reality indeed, for here is the modern-day description I gave of a Pharisee:

And, God can do this in the lives of many “Pharisees” today who appear righteous on the outside, but who, inside, are full of wickedness and given over to evil deeds. Yet, they lie to themselves, and convince themselves that they are ok, when their hearts are far from God. They fool themselves, and they fool others, but they can’t fool God. They are good at going through the motions and appearing as though they are followers of God, when truly they are driven by self, and their hearts are given over to fulfilling the desires of their sinful flesh. They will even use God and their religion as a cover-up for evil, when it suits their purposes. They are always performing for the crowd, but God sees what is truly in their hearts.
 
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Are you speaking of most people who profess to be Christians? Or, are you speaking of most people who call themselves religious? For, if you are speaking of most professing Christians, then that is a sad reality indeed, for here is the modern-day description I gave of a Pharisee:

And, God can do this in the lives of many “Pharisees” today who appear righteous on the outside, but who, inside, are full of wickedness and given over to evil deeds. Yet, they lie to themselves, and convince themselves that they are ok, when their hearts are far from God. They fool themselves, and they fool others, but they can’t fool God. They are good at going through the motions and appearing as though they are followers of God, when truly they are driven by self, and their hearts are given over to fulfilling the desires of their sinful flesh. They will even use God and their religion as a cover-up for evil, when it suits their purposes. They are always performing for the crowd, but God sees what is truly in their hearts.

Well, I've been seeing many like that but their only sin for the most part is "worldliness" like loving the things in this world 1 John 2:15-17, although they profess they don't, but the things they post in facebook, etc, speaks quite the opposite of what they want to admit.
 
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Thanks for your message it's a bit long and wordy for me but I get the gist of it. How many times have we all been guilty of acting like Pharisees! I shall stay alert, thank you.

Over the course of our Christian lives, I am certain there are times when our walk does not match our talk (our profession), and so God has to remind us of what it means to be a follower of Christ. We then have the opportunity to yield to him, and to submit once again to his Lordship over our lives. Yet, this description of a Pharisee should not describe a true follower of Jesus Christ, if this is a consistent way of living for the professing Christian. Yet, there are aspects of this description of a Pharisee that may, at times, overtake us, if we are not alert and guarded against such hypocrisy. This is why we need to remain in Christ and have his Word remain in us, to keep us from falling into such deception as this.

Thanks for your response. I am just sharing what Jesus is teaching me from his word each day, so all glory to God.
 
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Well, I've been seeing many like that but their only sin for the most part is "worldliness" like loving the things in this world 1 John 2:15-17, although they profess they don't, but the things they post in facebook, etc, speaks quite the opposite of what they want to admit.

I agree that many who profess to know Jesus as Savior are living just like the world, and often it is barely distinguishable between Christians and the people who make no profession of Christ as Savior at all, and that is a very sad situation, indeed. And, it does come out in spades on social media, for sure. I have witnessed it, too, so I know what you are talking about. It is hypocrisy to give out an image that one is living a Christian life when the opposite is true. It isn't that Christians are absolutely perfect, though, for we still live in flesh bodies, but we should all be walking the talk, and not living the opposite of what we profess. And, if we do fail, we should be willing to admit it and ask for forgiveness for sinning against others.
 
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I agree that many who profess to know Jesus as Savior are living just like the world, and often it is barely distinguishable between Christians and the people who make no profession of Christ as Savior at all, and that is a very sad situation, indeed. And, it does come out in spades on social media, for sure. I have witnessed it, too, so I know what you are talking about. It is hypocrisy to give out an image that one is living a Christian life when the opposite is true. It isn't that Christians are absolutely perfect, though, for we still live in flesh bodies, but we should all be walking the talk, and not living the opposite of what we profess. And, if we do fail, we should be willing to admit it and ask for forgiveness for sinning against others.

I was too but I repented of that sin. I have to change my lifestyle and cut back on facebook and use my time and resources on things that are a lot more useful than just vanity and does not benefit others.
 
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I was too but I repented of that sin. I have to change my lifestyle and cut back on facebook and use my time and resources on things that are a lot more useful than just vanity and does not benefit others.
Amen to that one! My husband and I used to be avid movie watchers plus we spent most evenings watching TV news. We found we were wasting too much time on junk and so we ditched our TV 8 years ago. I haven't missed it! I, as well, got on Facebook, at the encouragement of my children, and I found it was a good way to connect with family and old friends, too. But, then I was scrolling through meme after meme to try to find something worthwhile to read, and finally the Lord convinced me that I just needed to drop Facebook, so I did. I admit I had withdrawals from the social aspect of it, as it was my main social interactions with other people, but time away dissipated any lingering drawings I had for FB, and now I don't miss it at all. All this has given me much more time for the Lord and for doing his will for my life, so it has been good.

So, I pray for you today that you will follow through with your commitment to change your lifestyle and to use your time and resources for what has eternal value in your life and in the lives of others.
 
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Over the course of our Christian lives, I am certain there are times when our walk does not match our talk (our profession), and so God has to remind us of what it means to be a follower of Christ. We then have the opportunity to yield to him, and to submit once again to his Lordship over our lives. Yet, this description of a Pharisee should not describe a true follower of Jesus Christ, if this is a consistent way of living for the professing Christian. Yet, there are aspects of this description of a Pharisee that may, at times, overtake us, if we are not alert and guarded against such hypocrisy. This is why we need to remain in Christ and have his Word remain in us, to keep us from falling into such deception as this.

Thanks for your response. I am just sharing what Jesus is teaching me from his word each day, so all glory to God.
Thanks for your reply. How do you know it's Jesus teaching you?
 
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What do any of you know about the Pharisees outside of the caricatures from the New Testament?

Do you realize there is a scriptural basis for the traditions of the elders having the same weight as the Law?
I don't know anything about the Pharisees outside of caricatures from the New Testament , I'm not sure I know that much about them inside the New Testament lol why are you asking this bold question? Are you waiting for us to ask you so you can show us your great and worthy knowledge. You seem to be trying to barge in on the ops message, is there something you don't like about it?
Your initial outburst sounds rather angry to me and rather condescending. Is this how we debate other peoples views? I think not. It's with respect we debate my learned Christian.
 
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Thanks for your reply. How do you know it's Jesus teaching you?

When we believe in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of our lives, we are indwelt with the Holy Spirit of God, who is God living within us; Christ within us. His job is to teach us, counsel, encourage, convict, comfort, spur, urge, strengthen, and empower us for the Lord's service. We can hear his voice speaking to us in our minds and in our hearts, not audibly, but as a voice in our minds. The more we hear his voice, the more we recognize it, and can discern it from other voices in our heads. Knowing the Word helps us to discern the Lord's voice from others, and knowing him and how he speaks to us helps, too.
 
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I don't know anything about the Pharisees outside of caricatures from the New Testament , I'm not sure I know that much about them inside the New Testament lol why are you asking this bold question? Are you waiting for us to ask you so you can show us your great and worthy knowledge. You seem to be trying to barge in on the ops message, is there something you don't like about it?
Your initial outburst sounds rather angry to me and rather condescending. Is this how we debate other peoples views? I think not. It's with respect we debate my learned Christian.

Not angry. Frustrated with the perpetuation of stereotypes of the Jewish people, in this case Pharisees that are so common in Christian forums.
 
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What do any of you know about the Pharisees outside of the caricatures from the New Testament?

Do you realize there is a scriptural basis for the traditions of the elders having the same weight as the Law?

So, what do you make of Jesus' words here?

Matthew 15:1-20: Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”

3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:

8 “‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’”

10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”

12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”

13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”

15 Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”

16 “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”
 
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There is a difference between tradition and law. Deuteronomy 17 gives elders and priests the authority to interpret the Law. Their words carried the same weight as the commands God gave to Israel. Compare these verses

Deuteronomy 28:14 And thou shalt not go aside from any of the words which I command thee this day, to the right hand, or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them.



Deuteronomy 17:9 And thou shalt come unto the priests the Levites, and unto the judge that shall be in those days, and enquire; and they shall shew thee the sentence of judgment:

10 And thou shalt do according to the sentence, which they of that place which the Lord shall choose shall shew thee; and thou shalt observe to do according to all that they inform thee:

11 According to the sentence of the law which they shall teach thee, and according to the judgment which they shall tell thee, thou shalt do: thou shalt not decline from the sentence which they shall shew thee, to the right hand, nor to the left.
Jesus often took umbrage with additional stringencies, but he specifically commanded his followers to obey the Scribes and the Pharisees in Matthew 23:

1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do;


 
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