A non-argumentative hillsong question

[Izero]

Then the conclusion is, you do not know what is.

After all, "a political witch-hunt" is a point of view, a polemic, and a label. It is not an explanation of the events.

I was being scarcastic

 

[grateful heart]

Truth has nothing to be afraid of.

Unless it is distorted

Then the conclusion is, you do not know what is.

After all, "a political witch-hunt" is a point of view, a polemic, and a label. It is not an explanation of the events.

The main reason why i didnt post things publically is that whatever i say about Hillsong it will be attacked , if i tell you the truth all that will happen is then you of course will believe the media (dont know why as they are anti Christian any way) and we will be where we are now, so whats the point?

 

[Izero]

Unless it is distorted

If the truth has been distorted, then it's not really the truth is it?

And it's better to reveal the truth, and let whoever wants to distort it, or what have you. Than hide it away.

Anyone knows that falsehood won't hold water. And likewise non of us here claims to know any prior knowledge to distort the truth.

We may question the truth, and like the mathematic "e" we can differentiate it or integrate it, "e" will always remain as "e".
But questioning the truth does not distort the truth.

 

[grateful heart]

If the truth has been distorted, then it's not really the truth is it?

exactly

And it's better to reveal the truth, and let whoever wants to distort it, or what have you. Than hide it away.

Anyone knows that falsehood won't hold water. And likewise non of us here claims to know any prior knowledge to distort the truth.

We may question the truth, and like the mathematic "e" we can differentiate it or integrate it, "e" will always remain as "e".
But questioning the truth does not distort the truth.

I have told the truth and Hillsong has told the truth, but still people question and think we are hiding something , the fact that certain people are down right lying to protect their own hides and just blame hillsong because it is easier will just add more fuel to the fire ,

 

[Izero]

You know what G-H

I think the Hillsingers of this forum wished you didn't post the last post of yours up.

It's absolutely giving me the itch, and I'd like to scratch. But I'm really really holding onto that temptation, otherwise you'll threaten to "Crush" me again.

 

[grateful heart]

You know what G-H

I think the Hillsingers of this forum wished you didn't post the last post of yours up.

It's absolutely giving me the itch, and I'd like to scratch. But I'm really really holding onto that temptation, otherwise you'll threaten to "Crush" me again.

funny no one has said anything to me about this??? i have no idea what you are on about but this re inforces the reasons why i dont post the stuff i know about situations, maybe i should just not say anything and let you guys believe all the hype and lies that people and media give to you ..........

 

[grateful heart]

You have to understand, there are many things i dont agree with what Hillsong believes or does , but is there any church that anyone believes 100% of their Doctrine? i doubt it very much, the thing is, i see some great things Hillsong is doing , and may be a lot more than a lot of other places are doing for the needy etc etc , its just that i dont focus on the negative only the positive, im not saying i just pretend its not there, i just look at the big picture, 100's of ugandan kids are being looked after because we give to that cause through the Church, now i would rather give and them help and get criticism than not give and they dont the help they require so not to rattle feathers or offend the religious people out there who think the Church should be poor and irrelevant

 

[zug]

maybe i should just not say anything

The thing is, you don't say anything.

You just say, "Look, I know the true story. Send me a private message for more. I won't discuss it here. And if I reply, don't you discuss it either."

When asked what insights you had into HillSong to be able to speak on its behalf, you confirmed you were a rank-and-file member with no insights or access to its financial governance. So, what you say - if you would say it - would be hearsay, anyway.

Ironically, you assume people who ask questions and who seek the truth are hostile to HillSong.

Do you think I am, for instance? It is true I have decided there's no point trying to get susbtance out of you, but this hardly means I am disinclined towards that organisation or that I assume the media report to be entirely accurate. Yet, no doubt you have equated "questioning" with hostility. No doubt you have equated lack of confidence in your arcane knowledge to be hostility.

 

[grateful heart]

Ironically, you assume people who ask questions and who seek the truth are hostile to HillSong

Open your eyes , i have asked for pms people have and i have answered, if you cant be bothered pmming me then dont

I thinks its funny all this stuff you are saying, from now on i will only display facts and not give to any insight that i know, does this satisfy you lot? Of course if you want the story then why dont you ring them?

 

[shout2thelord]

we have told you the truth and so has hillsong, media realeses have been posted from the website by myself and another uses. but people have chosen to ignore this.
People keeping asking what are u not telling us but there is nothing else to tell. This tells me that you are not after the truth but just trying to find something to discredit hillsong with.