A New Racial Slur for Whites

[Dave-W]

I always liked honkey.

 

[Chesterton]

I'm curious who's engaging in mind reading now?

I didn't need to mind read. You typed your thoughts out in text.

I suggested a simple test to see what people thought when someone would use the phrase "thug" in a speech. You now seem to want to make this about me and things you have no way of knowing one way or the other. If I didn't know any better? I'd say it sounds like I touched a nerve with what I said. But since the thread isn't really about you or I why not just keep it impersonal and discuss what the thread is about in general terms instead?
tulc(thinks it will keep the thread more interesting and less flamey)

I was just commenting on your post.

 

[Chesterton]

Anywhere outside of Europe.

Funny, it doesn't seem to be in the newspapers. Gosh I hope "anywhere" includes Washington, D.C.

 

[MehGuy]

"Colonizer".. sounds like a term that's measure of effectiveness is dependent on how much white guilt the person you are using the term towards possesses. So the people most likely to be hurt over the term would be presumably their closest allies. While an actual racist should be if anything flattered by the term. "Yeah.. our ancestors had the technological superiority to colonize less technological advanced people." "Alright.. whatever.. thanks for reminding me..".

What's the use of a term that's only going to hurt people who sympathize with you? I guess sometimes it's better to hurt someone rather than no one. Than again, it would not surprise me if some of their allies get off on being called that slur word. White guilt seems to be a good source of masochism.

Although, the term "terminator" might be a cooler slur to use. Lol.

 

[MehGuy]

let's just start calling each other "colons" to spite them.

the first time I heard the term "colonizer" used in a derogatory manner was by some angry woman that had some native american blood in her.

How about "colon cancers"? Lol.

 

[Ana the Ist]

@Ana the Ist, minorities calling white people 'Colonizers' is nothing new. It's been happening for a long time now. I have been involved in Native American social justice and political activism for more than 26 years and this term has been a common way to refer to white people in Native American circles.

No kidding? Does it bother you to think blacks are culturally appropriating your word?

I haven't heard the term used in a derogatory way to insult white people though. The fact is white people living in America today are descendants of European immigrant colonizers.

Well some are...

Colonizer is a term I've heard many times over the years and I've even used the term myself. But I never used it in a manner to insult white people and I haven't heard it used in a manner to insult white people.

So when you said it....you meant it in a positive way?

 

[Moral Orel]

I always liked honkey.

I prefer "cracker". Not "crack-uh", that's offensive.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I prefer "cracker". Not "crack-uh", that's offensive.

Lol that's a good one...works on a couple of levels.

 

[grasping the after wind]

You really think all those terms are secretly racist?

For example, is there any situation where one could legitimately call a black man a "thug" or a woman "bossy"?

If one were to say a white male is a bossy and shrill thug does one perhaps actually believe that the white male in question identifies as a black woman and is using racist code to acknowledge one's connection to the vast white supremacy movement?

 

[Dave-W]

I prefer "cracker". Not "crack-uh", that's offensive.

On Rosh HaShannah, there is a short afternoon service done by a body of mayim chaim, (living water) like a lake or stream. Bread is thrown into the water symbolic of sins that float away.

In a joke list several years ago, a group of rabbis came up with an extensive list of breads for SPECIFIC sins. Included in that list:

For the sins of racism: crackers
For the sins of sophisticated racism: Ritz crackers​

 

[Tanj]

What it isn't is new.

I got called a colonizer in 1998.

 

[tulc]

What it isn't is new.

I got called a colonizer in 1998.

Really? I honestly never heard it used before I watched Black Panther. where were you when they called you that?
tulc(is always interested in words)

 

[Tanj]

Really? I honestly never heard it used before I watched Black Panther. where were you when they called you that?
tulc(is always interested in words)

Whilst in Tokyo I told the people I was with I'd had enough of Japanese food and was off to Burger King, at which point one of the (local) people in the group accused me of being an imperialist colonizer.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I prefer "cracker". Not "crack-uh", that's offensive.

I was called a "crack-uh" once. I guess the guy who said it didn't like my white but slightly soiled jacket which I wore everyday to work in the Fall. The funny thing for me is that at the time, I had never heard that term used before. Man, what a sheltered life I used to live. Thank goodness for philosophy and social science!

 

[tulc]

Whilst in Tokyo I told the people I was with I'd had enough of Japanese food and was off to Burger King, at which point one of the (local) people in the group accused me of being an imperialist colonizer.

interesting! Thanks!
tulc(was screamed at just today that "Your mother regrets having had you!" couldn't argue with that, so had to agree, she probably did)

 

[jayem]

I'm a native southerner. But I'm a city boy. My people considered themselves as representatives of the more genteel and cultivated south. (Though AFAIK, there was no justification for it.) The language I heard most often in reference to less refined (or maybe just less pretentious) white folks was the RN term that is now somewhat of a vulgarism. It may be against CF rules to explicitly post it. But--to remove any doubt about what I mean; and to demonstrate my snobbish erudition, here's the French translation: cou rouge.

 

[Noxot]

what red neck is offensive now? probably not to red necks, lol.

 

[grasping the after wind]

I'm a native southerner. But I'm a city boy. My people considered themselves as representatives of the more genteel and cultivated south. (Though AFAIK, there was no justification for it.) The language I heard most often in reference to less refined (or maybe just less pretentious) white folks was the RN term that is now somewhat of a vulgarism. It may be against CF rules to explicitly post it. But--to remove any doubt about what I mean; and to demonstrate my snobbish erudition, here's the French translation: cou rouge.

My antecedents were Slavic (slaves) and Celtic. None of which ever gained advantage from Germanic or Anglo Saxon hegemony . So other than racist stereotyping akin to that which motivated Jim Crow, , why would anyone bundle me in with slave holders? BTW AFAIK Poland and Ireland had no colonies.

 

[grasping the after wind]

President Coolidge come down in a railroad train with a little fat man with a note pad in his hand. President said "little fat man, ain't it a shame what the river has done to this poor Cracker's land."

 

[Dave-W]

I have heard the term "cracker" when used in this context to call someone a racist, not necessarily white.

What if you are a Graham cracker???