I would agree. Genesis 1 & 2 look like real history and Jesus seemed to confirm that when He said, "But at the beginning of creation God made them male and female." Mark 10:6
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I would agree. Genesis 1 & 2 look like real history and Jesus seemed to confirm that when He said, "But at the beginning of creation God made them male and female." Mark 10:6if it looks like a poem, smells like a poem, tastes like a poem, we can pretty much conclude with confidence that it is a poem.
It's just a pity that Christians are unable to read this kind of thing from the outside looking in, they would see just how juvenile and ridiculous it all is.don't know exactly, which is something I am okay with....in addition, we don't know how long the particles existed before God brought them together nor how long a day was before sun moon and stars were created, all this gives us cause to suggest that older than YEC, younger than old earth
I'm confused, who is arguing that we discuss, test, or anything else about whether or not God exists? Seriously, I'm confused. I never once suggested that we do anything with the concept of does God or does God not exist. My only question is if we are going to claim that there is no evidence for a creator, what would evidence look like (through predictions) so we could determine if there is or is not evidence. I said nothing about who that creator would be or if evidence even existed to show a creator, I simply asked the poster claiming there was no evidence of a creator to tell us what predictions were looked at to come to that conclusion.In theology and philosophy, Razzle, there has long been debate over the existence of God, and much rich literature to read on the subject. Unfortunately, believers and non-believers today tend to overlook all that. Hence, their cases are very weak. There are the classical arguments for God and as well contemporary ones. And, of course, there are the refutations that have to be addressed. Another issue here is exactly what kind of God are you trying to prove or disprove. Christianity is not a monolithic religion, just one way. There is more that one model of God or description of God as he is in his won nature available in Christianity. Most people think there is only one, but there are two at present. So I find seeking evidence for God is a fruitful area for study, though one must realize it is very complex and providing no easy or simple answers.
Hum....... how many history books have you read that read like the Gen. account of creation? Not all of Gen. just the creation account at this point? Here is a hint for you, my husband is trained to be a history teacher and is very knowledgeable of history and he will tell you that none of the history books, read like the Gen. account of creation, making it something other than a historical account.I would agree. Genesis 1 & 2 look like real history and Jesus seemed to confirm that when He said, "But at the beginning of creation God made them male and female." Mark 10:6
I would agree. Genesis 1 & 2 look like real history and Jesus seemed to confirm that when He said, "But at the beginning of creation God made them male and female." Mark 10:6
not sure your point, but most people refuse to look at things with an unbiased approach to what anything says. In their pride they want to be right and refuse to accept that they might be wrong. Personally, I find that very distasteful, thus purpose to always remove as much bias as possible before approaching any topic whether faith based or otherwise.It's just a pity that Christians are unable to read this kind of thing from the outside looking in, they would see just how juvenile and ridiculous it all is.
I find it weird that Christians don't call their deity by its proper name, YHWH (usually pronounced Yahweh, but exact pronounciation has been lost to time).I think we agree that Genesis is polemetic as it certainly show God is not a god.
For instance God made the sun...so why worship the sun (god)?
It could be argued that His name is "I AM"...point being that there are several names attributed to God, not sure any one is of higher significance than any other....in fact, this week I have been known to refer to Him as the GOD of Peace, which is a referrence made throughout the bible.I find it weird that Christians don't call their deity by its proper name, YHWH (usually pronounced Yahweh, but exact pronounciation has been lost to time).
An ironic name, given how many wars YHWH has endorsed throughout the bible's pages.It could be argued that His name is "I AM"...point being that there are several names attributed to God, not sure any one is of higher significance than any other....in fact, this week I have been known to refer to Him as the GOD of Peace, which is a referrence made throughout the bible.
Personally, I don't find it ironic at all when we consider God's perspective as given to us in the Bible as to why the wars and such in addition to what peace is promised. But, alas, that takes us off topic, maybe a discussion for another thread?An ironic name, given how many wars YHWH has endorsed throughout the bible's pages.
""When you analyse the myth it falls apart.""I'm an atheist but what about all the people who were raised to be Muslim or Hindu? millions of them have never heard of Jesus Christ? just as you have never heard of some of their Gods.If that's the case where did your God come from and how do you think he created everything?
According to your bible your God was there before anything existed, he then created everything from nothing. When you analyse the myth it falls apart.
I would agree. Genesis 1 & 2 look like real history and Jesus seemed to confirm that when He said, "But at the beginning of creation God made them male and female." Mark 10:6
Of course it would - it's a fundamental question about where we came from. No-one can escape it. Now alleged old ages don't present any problems for non-Christians of course, but believers do have to deal with this in their own way. I'm in the YEC camp, because I find that fits best with what I read in the Bible and to me, makes more sense of Jesus's willing sacrifice on the cross to save the likes of me from my sins. I respect alternative views of other Christians, but I don't understand how they reconcile their theology with long ages for the earth and the cruel and wasteful process that is the TOE.
""When you analyse the myth it falls apart.""
Not really. I find that, Eternity is behind the time space continuum more plausible than the myth of, It just popped up out of nowhere and where all going to die.
I take it then that you don't want to die?
John 3:16I take it then that you don't want to die?
Isn't that what atheists are telling us ? You die, game over
You would be jumping to conclusions to equate that from that. No I believe your spirit lives on.I'm a christian.
I meant. Isn't that what atheists are telling us ? You die, game over.
John 3:16
New International Version (NIV)
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
I have no idea what happens to someone after they die. Neither do you. I think the idea of an after life is nothing but wishful thinking. To me, life is more meaningful when you realize that this is likely the only life you have and it's unlikely there is anything after it.
well do u want to die ?That's twice you avoided the issue.
Is it safe to say that you do not wish to die, but would prefer the "eternal life" that is offered in exchange for faith and obedience?
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