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kiwimac

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Let's not confuse 'angry with Christianity' with God-hating, OK?
 
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Maybe...but I remember a rather heated debate in GT about 1.5 years ago which was rather similar in terms of posts per minute.

The one on justification? That was a wild one. Nearly killed the battery in my laptop!
 
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How would the gifts of the Spirit be operational in one who denies the Spirit???
The Mod issue does need to be adressed...I do not believe non-Christian Mods are the best idea...

We need Mod who are led by the Spirit and walk in love and humility!!!!

Tough issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Let's not confuse 'angry with Christianity' with God-hating, OK?
? They're different animals.

But, no, I don't think either would be good mods.

The former may not be able to distance themselves emotionally.

The latter simply has an axe to grind.
 
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The Mod issue does need to be adressed...I do not believe non-Christian Mods are the best idea...

We need Mod who are led by the Spirit and walk in love and humility!!!!

Tough issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How about non-Christian mods only in non-Christian sections?
 
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The one on justification? That was a wild one. Nearly killed the battery in my laptop!

The Mary-related one (or I think that was it). It had about 600 posts in a very short period of time when it was finally shut down something like 3 hours after it began. I remember starting a string of people reciting the Ave Maria in "protest" towards the beginning...
 
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I joined staff to help out, it actually takes more out of me as staff than when I was not a staff member.

Right on the money, JD. It seems to me that Staff duties have in fact inhibited people from acting as ministers. Those who should have shepherds' crooks have nothing but swords.
 
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The answer to your question is that yes many many are fired because they are unpopular. What does the Scripture say about itching ears?
Which is why I'm leaving staff and putting it here, in public, for all to see so if anyone cares they don't have to go off speculating.

I don't do popularity contests of any sort. I just don't. I don't know if I'm "liked" enough to be kept around or hated enough to get the boot. That isn't the point.

I don't even like the mod of the month thing and gringe when my name goes up! Why? Because in school I was the one whose name never had a checkmark or vote beside it. Never picked for the kickball team even though I was good. I was the quiet nerd in the corner everybody loathed.

Now, why is this something I just can't handle? Because eventually there will be a vote for mods and someone who is really lovely, who does a lot behind the scenes for people, who is smart and funny and compassionate and would be a great mod won't have a checkmark next to their name or get a vote because they are quiet, or because they aren't in the right clique or something. And it will hurt.

Sorry. I just can't do it.

I'll still be around playing my little verse games and stuff and of course keeping my dollie well dressed, but that is why I'll be leaving staff. And thinking about the person on the ballot who might get hurt, I'm equally reminded it's high time to apologize to any member or fellow staff whom I have hurt with deeds or words. I apologize.

I wish CF the best and hope it goes great.
 
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We need to believe Jesus was right when he CHOSE to fellowship with Prostitutes, Tax-Collectors and others, we need to accept that the Spirit blows where It will.

God is in these changes, God, who in Christ threw out all the ways we could TRY to justify ourselves, God who in Christ calls us to be the least, the servant of others rather than their masters.
 
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brilliant!!

to add:
"If our life is poured out in useless words, we never will hear anything, will never become anything, and in the end, because we have said everything before we had anything to say, we shall be left speechless at the moment of our greatest decision"

Thomas Merton

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Reps for you!
 
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We want to keep the mods who are fair and unbiased. We will LOVE to be able to get rid of the power-tripping ones.

Indeed. And that's what should hopefully happen as membership get more of a say and vote on things. The mods can't hide behind their thrones in the appeals area as easily, nor can they crony up without the membership noticing and then saying when it comes time to vote, "Remember when these mods got together and ganged up on that one member?" Maybe some might say that means mods won't work as closely together. On one hand, if it stops cronyism, then it's not all that bad a thing. However, the question is about how to keep some check and balances in order to prevent the other form of tyranny found in mob rule - especially considering potential problems with people having agendas making members puppets for such things.

For now, I'm just glad to see the changes, and waiting to see what transpires.

Pax Tecum,

JOhn
 
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Thanks for serving, Meh.

Steve
 
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