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A new CF, an old vision

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Leanna

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Not surprising, really. Most of the membership wanted a Christian forum. It will be interesting to see what replaces CF.

Goodbye all!

You're right! Jesus was always hanging with the Pharisees and Sadducees wasn't he? Wait, no, that's not right....
 
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If there will now be open moderation and everything public - why do we need to parade out the old crap? I'm sure that plenty of people have copies of the juicy bits should things not turn out well.
I think that the the new regime offers a solution to get a closure for those who have been severely hurt by the carryings on of the former regime. It is not asking much that the stigma of the sins of others may be lifted once and for all instead of thoose things being continually hid behind the cloud of secrecy
 
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No doubt there will be growing pains, but in the long run I feel that it will help a Christian's walk with the Lord more than hinder as CF was doing previously. That's just my opinion though.

A smelly opinion. like noses or however the saying goes. My opinion likes to smell pizza...?
 
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Not as pastors, let me clarify, but as moderators. They know Scripture as well as the rest of us, especially Garnet and they are very fair minded. They have common sense too and a sense of humor.

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Lol ok... that sounds a bit better
 
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But it isn't a question of compassion...?

Hopefully, there will be very few rules to even adhere to, but am speaking specifically of people who are well-liked within their own circle, but scornful of faith.

It's not about how compassionate or honest they are, cos many theists are lacking in both.

But if someone thinks Christianity is "delusional" and "for stupid people" - terms that have cropped up in GA *repeatedly*, I don't think someone with those views should be in a leading role within a Christian environment.
 
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i applaud you for taking back the forum and following what the spirit is speaking to you. Some of the changes sound a bit scary, but yet exciting. It really does feel right, though not all will agree. I am looking forward to how this will all play out. Thanks for not selling CF.
 
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absolutely!
 
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That's not what staff has been told. Staff has been told that their primary job is Christian ministry.

FYI when I am warned for doing something small and not even wrong, it was NOT ministry. If anything during my agnostic days it made me roll my eyes at the legalism of "Christian ministry." I came back to Jesus in spite of the Christians here not because of them. (not all, some of you I love) You want to win people for Christ, that was surely not the way. Sorry that you were confused!!
 
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Think of it as a great experiment in which we the members will modify the rules and requirements of moderators as needed.

Plus, while atheists do outnumber Christians in GA, they do not outnumber Christians forum wide. I would be surprised if a single atheist makes it to moderator based on a vote.

Lisa
 
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Hon I don't know if you're around these parts much, but I have never seen a moderator as a pastor ..... what pastoral things do they do? Rebuke?
I was referring to the comment that there were three Athiests the member knew who would be good pastors. A comment which she has since clarified. I am not implying that moderators are pastors. However we have been told in the past that Erwin felt that our primary role was as Christian ministers. I guess that is no longer true.
 
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There has already been enough warfare among men! Too many youths in the flower of life have shed their blood already! Legions of the dead, all fallen in battle, dwell within this earth of ours. Their stern voices urge us all to return at once to harmony, unity, and a just peace.​

Good Pope John XXIII ~ Ad Petri Cathedram
 
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I think this is hilarious coming from you.
 
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It helps, now and then, to step back and take a long view.

The kingdom is not only beyond our efforts,
it is even beyond our vision.

We accomplish in our lifetime only a tiny fraction
of the magnificent enterprise that is God's work.
Nothing we do is complete, which is a way of saying
that the kingdom always lies beyond us.
No statement says all that could be said.
No prayer fully expresses our faith.
No confession brings perfection.
No pastoral visit brings wholeness.
No program accomplishes the church's mission.
No set of goals and objectives includes everything.

This is what we are about.
We plant the seeds that one day will grow.
We water seeds already planted,
knowing that they hold future promise.

We lay foundations that will need further development.
We provide yeast that produces far beyond our capabilities.

We cannot do everything, and there is a sense of liberation
in realizing that. This enables us to do something,
and to do it very well. It may be incomplete,
but it is a beginning, a step along the way,
an opportunity for the Lord's grace to enter and do the rest.

We may never see the end results, but that is the difference
between the master builder and the worker.

We are workers, not master builders; ministers, not messiahs.
We are prophets of a future not our own.

Oscar Romero, Bishop & Martyr
 
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Yeah, I absolutely did not mean it that way. I just meant that some atheists are very fair minded and I think they would make good moderators. I would never want a pastor who was an atheist. That would be like letting in the wolf in the pasture, don't you think?

Lisa
 
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Instead the link should go to a statement like this:




I know you don't agree - but for pete's sakes - let things get spelled out and written down before you start harping and finding fault. Things are not perfect, they are not going to be perfect. BESIDES - Erwin did not say that everyone who claims to be a Christian IS - only that we would allow them to call themselves Christian if they like. I certainly hope that if that is the case there will no longer be a rule that says we cannot call them non-Christian or heretic anymore as well.
 
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I'm sorry what was it I was confused about?
 
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There's a difference between a person who respectfully disagrees, and then one who belittles like the personality you are describing.

I wouldn't make a mod out of a person who has a history of bad-mouthing any religion, because they might bad-mouth the community or something. If it was a respectful atheist, who knew how to mod, and wouldn't say disrespectful things like, "Oh God is lame, you're lame. Christianity is stupid." then I'd imagine them being on staff, but if they were to talk like that then ...well...I wouldn't think it'd be a good candidate.
 
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