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Of course not. I'd leave and find a respectable Church.You might remember that the only way for atheists to take seats in administration is for the church to vote them into those seats. Is that where you'd choose to cast your vote?
This simply rings as the "blood in the streets" cry I was hearing before concealed weapons permits were made available in my state. Crime dropped, shootings didn't escalate.You of all people are well aware of the incivility in the OPEN forums. Now think of expanding that for the entire site!
I think much of the incivility was due to the restrictions and not the people. Any time you impose restrictions on points of view people will butt against them and couple that with a good chunk of the membership here being told for years that they aren't good enough to be part of the whole forum you will get reactions. It's human nature. I think much of that will melt away now. Sure there will be some but did you ever visit GT? Christians certainly are no angels when it comes to civility! This thread proves that point. It's conservative Christians bashing atheists and non-Nicene Christian right out in the open, declarin' war, screaming about threats and so on. The incivility in this thread is all being perpetrated by Christians at this point. I would be more afraid of so called Christians attacking the non-Christians now that the gloves are off rather than the other way around.You of all people are well aware of the incivility in the OPEN forums. Now think of expanding that for the entire site!
You know, I find all this to be quite sad. Conservatives do not and will never have a monopoly on Christianity. I want CF to take a good, hard look at all the festering hatred people are throwing at the "liberals and unchurched" in the name of their god. Look at the way they castigate and insult their neighbors. For what? For Christ Jesus, who came to die for the sins of all mankind?
Get real. People are going on and on about how they need to "protect" themselves from the unbelievers. They say that they want to "witness" to us. And then they go saying such mean-spirited things.
I displayed an Anabaptist icon for most of my time on CF. I preached a message of love and respect for all god's creation. And you know what? People listened. I cannot even begin to try to tell you guys how many times people have told me that I restored their faith in Christians, Christianity, or even Christ himself by the sheer power of friendship.
This is the thanks that I get. If you lot are the true Christians, then it's a miracle that I deconverted when I did.
I modded many of the debate forums. We had to ban more Christians for being jerks than non-Christians at any given time. That speaks volumes. Go read the open forums again. Most of the vitriol from atheists is in response to stupidity posted by Christians who have been protected by staff time and time again. That protection ends and it will end much of the vitriol.
It also freely gives the non-Christian the power to deceive others with no idea they are being lied to and led astray.I am a fundie and as conservative as they come. I am a liberal's worst nightmare cuz I got my Scripture and know how to use it! However, I do not see this as liberalizing CF. I see it as an opportunity to freely teach the Word of God without being moderated to death. Oh, no, I just offended someone. DELETE! The old way is intolerable.
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1 Samuel 4:21 said:And she named the child Ichabod, saying, The glory is departed from Israel: because the ark of God was taken...
intricatic, your beautiful but stop being a diva.Of course not. I'd leave and find a respectable Church.
If control is what you're concerned with, it'll be what dominates your life. I have almost no concern for control and that's not what this is about.Why be so fearful of having an equal share of control rather then being controlled?
It also freely gives the non-Christian the power to deceive others with no idea they are being lied to and led astray.
I'm being dead serious here. I've done it in the past, if I experience it at another church I attend, I'm sure to do it in the future.intricatic, your beautiful but stop being a diva.
Can the truth stand on its own? That is the only question. If it cannot then it is not the truth and we should find the real truth. All the deception in the world cannot stand up to the light of truth. All your statement does is show fear of actually being challenged. Are you afraid there are more of them than there are of us? Are you afraid their arguments will be persuasive? Are you scared your ideas are not actually truth? The truth needs no protection.It also freely gives the non-Christian the power to deceive others with no idea they are being lied to and led astray.
I think much of the incivility was due to the restrictions and not the people. Any time you impose restrictions on points of view people will butt against them and couple that with a good chunk of the membership here being told for years that they aren't good enough to be part of the whole forum you will get reactions. It's human nature. I think much of that will melt away now. Sure there will be some but did you ever visit GT? Christians certainly are no angels when it comes to civility! This thread proves that point. It's conservative Christians bashing atheists and non-Nicene Christian right out in the open, declarin' war, screaming about threats and so on. The incivility in this thread is all being perpetrated by Christians at this point. I would be more afraid of so called Christians attacking the non-Christians now that the gloves are off rather than the other way around.
I modded many of the debate forums. We had to ban more Christians for being jerks than non-Christians at any given time. That speaks volumes. Go read the open forums again. Most of the vitriol from atheists is in response to stupidity posted by Christians who have been protected by staff time and time again. That protection ends and it will end much of the vitriol.
It also freely gives the non-Christian the power to deceive others with no idea they are being lied to and led astray.
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