A moral issue

[stubby42]

Ok I'm not sure if this is the right place to post it, but its the closest I could find. The questions more aimed at the lady's but guys could probably answer it as well.

OK, say we were in the days leading up to a big war the draft has been introduced and it looks like it could be a very bad war (maybe chemical war fare, possibly nukes). If a friend asked you to have his child would you do it? The firend may never come back (hmm, lets say he's 18 or 19 so he generally speaking he wont of had a child).

Guys would you ask a friend to do that for you?

 

[mel78]

That's a tough question and I think if we ever had to face a draft again and it meant more then anything to this friend to have a child, he should go to another country to aviod the draft and I only say this because how fair is it to bring a child into this world and it not have a father because he died in war. NOt to mention that he will never see or know his own child. now if it was my boyfriend he better marry me first then ask.

 

[Rafael]

If they are believers and married, they are protected by God. What is God's commandment but to be fruitful and multiply, as He gives all life. Each soul born has the potential for eternal life with God, so it isn't just all about us, but the will of God.

 

[stubby42]

Thats all very well, but believeing in God is far from a gareentie that your going to survive the war, many a Christian has died in war.

That's a tough question and I think if we ever had to face a draft again and it meant more then anything to this friend to have a child, he should go to another country to aviod the draft and I only say this because how fair is it to bring a child into this world and it not have a father because he died in war. NOt to mention that he will never see or know his own child. now if it was my boyfriend he better marry me first then ask.

Hmm, interesting though on the other side he could come back from the war alive.

 

[bliz]

OK, say we were in the days leading up to a big war the draft has been introduced and it looks like it could be a very bad war (maybe chemical war fare, possibly nukes). If a friend asked you to have his child would you do it? The firend may never come back (hmm, lets say he's 18 or 19 so he generally speaking he wont of had a child).

Every war looks like a very bad war to the people going off to war, becasue to them, it is!

This is such a male question! "If a friend asked you to have his child..." NEWSFLASH! It would not be his child. Men do not have tiny children inside of them that they can give to women to incubate. Any child would be their child, not his.

So, he wants a child? No, it seems far more accurate here to say that he wants to impregnate someone. So this child would not be conceived in love, but out of an act of selfullfillment or proof of his virility. And the woman gets the privilige of raising a child by herself so he can go off to war feeling - what? Satisified that his genes stay in the gene pool? That a carbon copy of himself will carry on? That his right to have a child will have been accomplished? None of this seems to take into consideration the needs of the child, or the woman involved.

This guy's desire here is totally selfish.

 

[Whitestone]

I would not ask a woman to do this for, because I would not to have a child to be raised without father.

 

[White St*r]

Every war looks like a very bad war to the people going off to war, becasue to them, it is!

This is such a male question! "If a friend asked you to have his child..." NEWSFLASH! It would not be his child. Men do not have tiny children inside of them that they can give to women to incubate. Any child would be their child, not his.

So, he wants a child? No, it seems far more accurate here to say that he wants to impregnate someone. So this child would not be conceived in love, but out of an act of selfullfillment or proof of his virility. And the woman gets the privilige of raising a child by herself so he can go off to war feeling - what? Satisified that his genes stay in the gene pool? That a carbon copy of himself will carry on? That his right to have a child will have been accomplished? None of this seems to take into consideration the needs of the child, or the woman involved.

This guy's desire here is totally selfish.

Word!

 

[Anti Existance]

Desperate times ask for desperate means, i think i would i mean what could i do? If my wife was already dead and i had no one else to count on i would ask a friend, or orphanage or grandma,cousin ,family whatever i still had to take care of my child.

 

[food4thought]

Every war looks like a very bad war to the people going off to war, becasue to them, it is!

This is such a male question! "If a friend asked you to have his child..." NEWSFLASH! It would not be his child. Men do not have tiny children inside of them that they can give to women to incubate. Any child would be their child, not his.

So, he wants a child? No, it seems far more accurate here to say that he wants to impregnate someone. So this child would not be conceived in love, but out of an act of selfullfillment or proof of his virility. And the woman gets the privilige of raising a child by herself so he can go off to war feeling - what? Satisified that his genes stay in the gene pool? That a carbon copy of himself will carry on? That his right to have a child will have been accomplished? None of this seems to take into consideration the needs of the child, or the woman involved.

This guy's desire here is totally selfish.

Right on, sister!

 

[Whitestone]

Desperate times ask for desperate means, i think i would i mean what could i do? If my wife was already dead and i had no one else to count on i would ask a friend, or orphanage or grandma,cousin ,family whatever i still had to take care of my child.

I think you misunderstood the question.

 

[ALIOSIAS]

No!

 

[simplicity]

It's actually a complex question, stubby. Imagine if you would a scenario. Pretend that the war was completely wrong and that it was a huge mistake. Assume that there is something about the character of those at war that contributed to that mistake. One way nature corrects for this error is to favour those who do not have that character. Nature would reduce their numbers on the planet, thus reducing the likelihood of an erroneous war in the future.

Now you did specify a draft which of course alters the dynamics. As you know a lot of young people do not vote. So essentially it is the older folks who would be responsible. They would still be around to reproduce even if the younger generation is completely wiped out. So really we have a generation of, er, self-sacrificing individuals disappearing. They let the old timers determine the course of their lives.

There are certainly lots of fatherless children during both peace and wartime.

 

[mel78]

It's actually a complex question, stubby. Imagine if you would a scenario. Pretend that the war was completely wrong and that it was a huge mistake. Assume that there is something about the character of those at war that contributed to that mistake. One way nature corrects for this error is to favour those who do not have that character. Nature would reduce their numbers on the planet, thus reducing the likelihood of an erroneous war in the future.

Now you did specify a draft which of course alters the dynamics. As you know a lot of young people do not vote. So essentially it is the older folks who would be responsible. They would still be around to reproduce even if the younger generation is completely wiped out. So really we have a generation of, er, self-sacrificing individuals disappearing. They let the old timers determine the course of their lives.

There are certainly lots of fatherless children during both peace and wartime.

I would have to agree to some point, but isn't it the "old timers" that should be setting an example for the younger people to vote for what they believe in, in the first place?

whether the war is wrong or not, we have a choice to go or not. of course if we choose not to go we would be breaking the law and would have to live in hiding or in another country. If it were my brother, boyfriend, father... i would help him hide if he were to ask me to. anything to save a life!!

 

[ALIgator]

I think that if he comes back from the war he needs to wait and get married to someone he's in love with and then have the child, and if he doesn't then it wouldn't be fair for the kid to grow up not knowing their daddy and knowing their mom only had them out of guilt. So, no, I probably wouldn't do it. That sounds kinda mean but I just think it would be the best thing for everyone

 

[Sketcher]

I would not ask a woman to do this for, because I would not to have a child to be raised without father.

Same here. If I am going to be someone's biological father, I will also take care of that child as a father. If I can't do that, I'll abstain from sex until I came back from war or whatever.