A Kingdom Divided

[Apollo Celestio]

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The largest was over the issue of slavery. In the end, the western world chose to reject biblical teachings and end slavery.
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and no one is arguing over the definition of sin.

there are those ignoring the commandment of Jesus and justifying hate and discrimination….such people pretend that what they are doing isn’t a sin at all…but no one is arguing about the definition.




You’re trying to label prejudice as carnality? Well whatever


Yes this movement teaches that it is justifiable to discriminate minorities
That false witness in pursuit of legalized discrimination is somehow not a sin at all.
That hate is not hate if you claim you are a Christian
That hate is not hate if you can cheery pick bible verses
that personal prejudice is A-OKAY



A fine example of the false witness I just spoke of.


A fine example of the false witness I just spoke of.

And what two brands?
Catholic? Greek orthodox? Baptist? Mormon? Episcopalian, Anglican? Lutheran? Russian orthodox? Quaker? Unitarian? Adventist? Christian Science? Missouri Synod? Jews For Jesus? Methodist? Presbyterian?



What world? Pluto?


Well given the lack of evidence they got it right.
And given that many of the teachings of fundamentalists ignore the teachings of Jesus

I think its pretty safe to say who has it right



Well lets see…the fastest growing Christian Churches are the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. And the Universal Unitarians.
There fore they must be adhering to the truth



I would be surprised beyond words if you would ever do so.

Were all the Christians solely united on keeping slavery?

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

You have said plenty about what you believe regarding repentance. On repeated occassions you've claimed that Jesus abolished the law.



But others on this forum do not allow us to believe that.



They believe that no homosexual will enter heaven because of what they read in a bible. So how is this judgmental?



We believe God decided in the bible. So it becomes an issue of whether we believe the bible or not. We did not set out to believe this anymore than we set out to believe that murder is sin.



So it's bigger than Jesus. That's a crying shame.



That's because it's really a spiritual illness, which they are not knowledgable about.



Neither do the psychology organizations accept Jesus Christ as a Savior. So they aren't my bible, my preacher, or my God. Why should I care about them on spiritual matters?



The act of same-sex-sodomy is the sin. The reason isn't the issue.




So can God change anything in your life?

God can, but for whatever reason, I have never met a gay person that has gone from a predominately Homosexual to predominately Heterosexual. I suppose you can provide links to slickly marketed Exgay sites, but the reality is the same for them. How about you bring an Exgay person here to the forum and we can have a little Q&A. How does that sound ?

 

[MrPirate]

Were all the Christians solely united on keeping slavery?

Much like today there were those Christian who chose to interpret the bible to justify not only their prejudices but to justify slavery.

How should we interpret your question?

 

[Zaac]

A kingdom divided can not stand. That is what the Savior tells us. In the history of Christendom there have been divisions over theology, but never has there been a division over the definition of sin. But now we have carnality knocking at the door, and it’s a false teaching as old as the church.

1) It does not teach repentance rather it teaches sinners are ok just like they are.

2) It teaches that immutable sexual orientation is a god that is greater than the Savior.

3) It teaches a message of confusion to non-believers where there are two different brands of Christianity but only one Christ.

4) The world looks to fundamental Christianity as the doctrinal basis, and they are supposed to believe fundamental Christianity has it all wrong according to this other group. This is an exceedingly poor witness.

5) The churches that honor the truth grow, and those that stray from the truth die just like the bible said they would.


Who will step forward and honor Christ with a good testimony?

HALLELUJAH!!!

They arecaught up in fornication and idolatry and don't even realize it.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

Much like today there were those Christian who chose to interpret the bible to justify not only their prejudices but to justify slavery.

How should we interpret your question?

Just wondering your proof for justifying that all Christians supported slavery, and racism.

 

[IFG1P315]

Just wondering your proof for justifying that all Christians supported slavery, and racism.

Just as curious is where someone who is using interpretation to justify the cultural absolution of a sin gets the spiritual, Biblical, and moral authority to accuse others using interpretation to justify anything.

 

[Phinehas2]

Hi just curious why you assume it is interpretation on which you base your remark. As Christians we dont judge people right according to people we judge whether what people say is right according to the word and the Spriit. according to the word we ahve authority to do that, to bind and loose.