A fictional election for the sake of illustration

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Remember how paranoid the media seemed to be about "Russia, Russia, Russia" for 4 years (in terms of supposing that Russia had rigged an election)?
Not rigged (it was reported VERY early on that the election had NOT been "rigged").

INFLUENCED.

Which multiple intelligence agencies (including those of some of our NATO allies who actually had access to email accounts and video cameras in the actually building where the Russians where working to INFLUENCE the 2016 election) and multiple social media platforms and congressional commissions ALL confirmed happened.

"Rusher ... if you're listening ..." - trump, July 27, 2016. And within a matter of hours, Russia began hacking US email accounts and started their social media misinformation campaign to INFLUENCE the election.
 
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well we saw a lot of that and posted on the fact that it was "noticed" even on the CF politics areas of the boards.
Certain groups seem to see a lot of things which aren't there - like election fraud, for example. For some reason when those groups are put in a situation where they have to support the things they see with evidence, it becomes an issue - for example, all of the cases where those claims are laughed out of court.

You'll excuse me if it looks like your claim is part of this pattern.
 
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Certain groups seem to see a lot of things which aren't there - like election fraud, for example. .

Tell that to the people just charged with it in California as of yesterday.

more facts.

less ... nonfact please.
 
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Not rigged (it was reported VERY early on that the election had NOT been "rigged").

INFLUENCED.

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Might - the insertion of thousands of fake ballots for the other side "influence" an election? (Or even the "finding" of votes that were not counted - weeks after the fact.)

1. Software glitch reverses election
Losing Republican in Oakland County turns winner after error fixed
2. Nov 15 -- 800,000 votes are at risk in lawsuit in Michigan -
WISCONSIN: Lawsuit Filed To Remove Nearly 800,000 Ballots Due To Illegal Votes
-- so without knowing ahead of time what the outcome would be it is certainly "possible" that this would impact the election in that state.
3. 2600 votes Just now "found" in Georgia recount.
Georgia Recount Finds About 2,600 Uncounted Ballots in GOP County - WSJ.com
(which is another reason that we like recounts when margins are slim)

The unshakable confidence that "some" have - that no outside nation has been able to influence via illegal ballots any election in any state this year - is stark contrast to the "russia, russia, russia" claims for the past 4 years.

(watch for "inconvenient facts not welcomed" responses)
 
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