A fascinating video on the vacuity of Macro Evolution for

[paul becke]

your delectation, boys and girls, at the link appended below :

https://uncommondescent.com/evoluti...hell-says-there-is-no-evidence-for-evolution/

 

[lesliedellow]

Could I care less what a jounalist thinks about Evolution? No, not really. Some of his remarks which are frankly fallacious.

 

[Nithavela]

I've never eaten more than 1 Pizza at a time, so I disbelieve that millions of pizzas can be eaten. Micropizzaing is a scientific fact, while macropizzaing is only a theory.

 

[xianghua]

I've never eaten more than 1 Pizza at a time, so I disbelieve that millions of pizzas can be eaten. Micropizzaing is a scientific fact, while macropizzaing is only a theory.

not the same. according to this: we see small changes in a car. therefore small steps+time will turn it into an airplane.

 

[lesliedellow]

not the same. according to this: we see small changes in a car. therefore small steps+time will turn it into an airplane.

100% undiluted nonsense.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

not the same. according to this: we see small changes in a car. therefore small steps+time will turn it into an airplane.

Stop comparing the construction of cars to biological evolution. THEY AREN'T COMPARABLE.

 

[DogmaHunter]

not the same. according to this: we see small changes in a car. therefore small steps+time will turn it into an airplane.

Do you know the expression "comparing apples with oranges"?
Well, what you just did there is worse. More like "comparing organic apples with plastic organges".

 

[xianghua]

Do you know the expression "comparing apples with oranges"?
Well, what you just did there is worse. More like "comparing organic apples with plastic organges".

we are talking about the logic that saying small steps+time= big step. so its the same logic and a good analogy. both cars and living things can add small steps.

 

[lesliedellow]

we are talking about the logic that saying small steps+time= big step. so its the same logic and a good analogy. both cars and living things can add small steps.

Um, 1.) a car doesn't have DNA, 2.) a car doesn't reproduce.

I seem to recall that you posted this kind of nonsense before.

 

[Nithavela]

Comeon guys, give the man some slack. After all, if cars could evolve in small steps, we would have some sort of giant flying machine that can transport people through the air.

 

[DogmaHunter]

we are talking about the logic that saying small steps+time= big step.

Yes, and crucial parts of that process are, among other things:
- an ability to reproduce
- some kind of mechanism to introduce the random change to the genotype
- a fitness test for the phenotype
- a mechanism to pass on the genotype from one generation to the next during the process of reproduction.

so its the same logic and a good analogy. both cars and living things can add small steps.

Cars don't reproduce, don't engage in a fitness test, have no genotype, do not mutate and do not pass on traits.

So yes, it's like comparing organic apples with plastic oranges.

Maybe you should try to have at least high school level knowledge about the science you are so bend on arguing against.

 

[xianghua]

Yes, and crucial parts of that process are, among other things:
- an ability to reproduce

not realy. again; we only need the ability to add small changes over time (therefore the logic small steps+time=big step). and a regular car can indeed to that.

now, the interesting part is that even a car will have the ability to reproduce, it will not change into something like an airplane or a submarine. because we dont have a functional s t epwise way from a self replicating car into an airplane. so they cant evolve from each other even if they was self replicating.

 

[DogmaHunter]

not realy.

Yes, really. Reproduction with variation and inheritance of traits, is literally the first requirement of an evolutionary mechanism. Without that, there is no evolutionary mechanism / process.

again; we only need the ability to add small changes over time (therefore the logic small steps+time=big step). and a regular car can indeed to that.

No, that's not how it works.
Cars don't reproduce, cars don't pass on traits and changes made to the design of cars are completely arbitrary and not at all dependend on "previous versions".

now, the interesting part is that even a car will have the ability to reproduce, it will not change into something like an airplane or a submarine. because we dont have a functional s t epwise way from a self replicating car into an airplane. so they cant evolve from each other even if they was self replicating.

The only remotely interesting thing here, is the fact that you apparantly think that this nonsense is an analogy to biological evolution.

 

[AirPo]

not the same. according to this: we see small changes in a car. therefore small steps+time will turn it into an airplane.

Transitional.

 

[xianghua]

again- according to evolutionnery logic small steps+time= big step.

do you agree or disagree?

if you agree that a small steps +time= big step then we can conclude the same for any object that can add small steps. this is of course including a car.

The only remotely interesting thing here, is the fact that you apparantly think that this nonsense is an analogy to biological evolution.

the only fact here is that you ignore the claim even when we add to this the self replicating trait (like a living thing). i guess that you understand well why this argument hold water.

 

[xianghua]

Transitional.

you cant make this car flying by adding only one part (look how many parts it have to make it flying). you ned at least several. therefore we cant get a flying car from a non flying one by small steps.

 

[AirPo]

you cant make this car flying by adding only one part (look how many parts it have to make it flying). you ned at least several. therefore we cant get a flying car from a non flying one by small steps.

How do you know, were you there?

 

[AirPo]

again- according to evolutionnery logic small steps+time= big step.

do you agree or disagree?

if you agree that a small steps +time= big step then we can conclude the same for any object that can add small steps. this is of course including a car.





the only fact here is that you ignore the claim even when we add to this the self replicating trait (like a living thing). i guess that you understand well why this argument hold water.

Disagree.

small steps+time= a lot of small steps.

 

[lesliedellow]

again- according to evolutionnery logic small steps+time= big step.

do you agree or disagree?

if you agree that a small steps +time= big step then we can conclude the same for any object that can add small steps. this is of course including a car.





the only fact here is that you ignore the claim even when we add to this the self replicating trait (like a living thing). i guess that you understand well why this argument hold water.

A car cannot add small steps, unless it has got dodgy paint work, and then it can rust. What is more, there is no mechanism which could allow small changes to take place. You are talking absolute, and unmitigated, nonsense.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Disagree.

small steps+time= a lot of small steps.

But that logic only applies to BIOLOGICAL ORGANISMS, NOT MECHANICAL CREATIONS.