if_i_only_had_a_brain said:
This post, my friend, is a priceless jewel. I was thoroughly refreshed by its simplicity, honesty, and truth.
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if_i_only_had_a_brain said:I think that the big picture has been absolutely missed here. We live in a world where people are decieved by their own sin. Pagans aren't to blame, they merely believe a lie because they don't have the spirit of God alive in them. The war is against the prince of this world....we don't fight with flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities in high places, if you're a Christian then I know that sounds familiar. The point i'm making is that arguing with a few people who just want to make some fuss and talk in circles and live like educated barbarians is not going to profit you or I. Praying and seeking to do the will of almighty God is what profits us in the end. I know that judgement comes to those who deserve it, and we absolutely deserve it, but it's all part of the plan, we just need to fight the good fight and go out there and show people the truth, be a witness of the love of God.
Still curious, but what part of "The point i'm making is that arguing with a few people who just want to make some fuss and talk in circles and live like educated barbarians is not going to profit you or I." is a jewell? Is it the condescending part? The blatent stereotyping part? Or perhaps it is the gross inaccuracy of the statement itself that makes it such a "jewell"? I'm having some trouble figuring that out?Whitehorse said:This post, my friend, is a priceless jewel. I was thoroughly refreshed by its simplicity, honesty, and truth.
It show why such is really a subjective concept.
Well said.
tcampen said:This beautifully illustrates why it is absurd to allow and rely on men (and women) to make such ultimate determinations and force them on others thru the government or otherwise.
tcampen said:Still curious, but what part of "The point i'm making is that arguing with a few people who just want to make some fuss and talk in circles and live like educated barbarians is not going to profit you or I." is a jewell? Is it the condescending part? The blatent stereotyping part? Or perhaps it is the gross inaccuracy of the statement itself that makes it such a "jewell"? I'm having some trouble figuring that out?
tcampen said:Yea, I guess to me personally, the statement just didn't seem very Christ-like with its condescending, inaccurate, and bigoted undertones. That's all.
Havoc said:You're right, the big picture has been absolutely missed here, and you've missed it too. The only talking incircles here has been done by those who claim to have absolute truth because they have absolute truth because they have ab****e truth.
I'm not decieved and I don't sin. I understand that you believe we all deserve the judgement of your God but quite frankly I have yet to see a Christian give anyone a compelling reason for doing so, other than "trust me, I'm not lieing".
Havoc said:I'm sorry to hear that. Must suk for you.
Whether it's todays Christian saying it or whichever Christians wrote the NT it's still the same thing... "trust me, I'm not lieing."
What if God did speak to me, but revealed a truth that is very different than what you are asserting? Should I trust what you say, or what God says? If I say I trust God, and that does not include the traditional Christian message, you might say that I am being deceived or am mistaken. But that whole premise is based on your interpretation - man's interpretation of God - which you already acknowledged should not be trusted.Whitehorse said:Not really. It's just honesty. .And of course the story doesn't end there.
I would say you need to find it from the Lord, not from man. If I must tell you to take my word for anything, anything at all, I suppose it would be this: no man can ever give you faith in Jesus Christ. It was designed that way.
Havoc said:If we take the number of claims of spiritual truths throughout the world it would appear that God speaks to many different peoples many different ways. It appears that the problem occurs when one set proclaims that the way God speaks to them is the only way God speaks.
Diatrive said:If a supernatural deity does exist, I look at it as a gem with many sides. Each group of people are looking at a different facet of the same gem. Each proclaiming they are the only ones who see the gem.
Whitehorse said:Hm. Then what would you do with all the contradictions?
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