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So you could argue that from a Christian viewpoint it's better to abort a fetus, so that they go straight to heaven? I guess the same would go for murder, as you cannot kill the soul and a believing soul goes to heaven.
Dear Paradoxum, please try to get with it,
you wrote, ".....don,t Think there is anything wrong with aborting them."
You're the one talking nonsense, or being unclear, not me.
I know... and what's your point? What did what you said have to do with that?
I did not say you were talking nonsense.
What more is to say?
The thread being about an opinion given by someone to a woman,
Your opinion was, "I don,t Think you can say that they "should" be aborted,
but I don,t Think there,s anything wrong with aborting them."
So, was this a disapproval followed up with an approval?
Before prenatal scanning, it was common with sterilization,
And the thinking Went so far as extermination, we don,t have to be reminded of that.
Remember this thread is about abortion of DS diagnozed.
Sometimes not having knowledge of the future can truly be a blessing.
I don't know what your point was in the first place.
It's saying that it's okay to abort them, but it's also okay not to abort them. It's up to the mother.
What was common with sterilization?
People wanted to kill born people with DS? That's what you mean?
I think it's good to know. You can choose to have an abortion or not.
You relly mean you know nothing of sterilization?
You really mean you know nothing of extermination of not only those with DS
but homosexuals crippled mentally ill unemployed the list goes on.
I asked you if there was a difference between exterminating them Before they were born or after they were born.
Who has the authority to decide who is to live and who is not?
How long Before there will be abortions for the least flaw, we all have flaws,
I don't know what YOU mean. Why are you talking about sterilization?
I'm not in favour of killing such people.
I think it's okay to kill them before birth, and a bit after birth. Not by the time they are toddlers.
The government has the authority to legalise it, and the mother/ parents have the authority to choose to have them killed.
What's wrong with that? I'm okay with people haven't an abortion for almost any reason.
Right or wrong,
the thread is not about abortion in general.
It is more about selectiveness, good or bad, right or wrong.
In Sweden alone there was compulsory sterilisation between 1934-2012,
the goal being, racial purity, public Health, reducing public expenditure and anti-social behaviour.
Forced sterilisation was seen as important in the countries crime prevention
program.
Many were put into asylems not because they were mentally ill Always, but because they were poor.
In and with technology today so can some things be foreseen,
Maybe even now they can say for example, this Child will only live 8 yrs, do you want it?
Right or wrong, good or bad, to me it seems pretty scary,
but I,m not of the supersonic era exactly,
So, I say, scary.
I know... I've given my opinion of the specific issue.
And I'm against that.
No.
I don't see the problem.
Yes you have given your opinion,
it is an eyeopener to hear what others Think.
Though, for example if Mrs Jones down the road wants to have an abortion.
it has nothing to do with me, it is not my buisness.
Generally I don,t Think of these things, because, well, I don,t.
Atheism isn't a worldview. It deals with one topic only, whether a God exists. There is no Church of Atheism, with Dawkins as the leader. Atheists are rarely organised, in the way many religious people are. The vast majority are just people who don't believe the claims that religions make. They can be pro-choice or pro-life (just as Christians are).
I personally wouldn't say that aborting a Down's fetus is immoral, nor would I say that it would be immoral to carry it to term. I'm not sure that with these kinds of things there is a moral answer.
Yeah, I don't have a problem with what other people want to do with their lives.
Murder is a legal term. As long as abortion is not against the law, it is not murderAborting any human foetus (Downs Syndrome or otherwise) is not only immoral, it's murder (Ex.20:13).
Does that include their having an irresistible desire to murder you or one of your loved ones?!
Moral relativism is a social cancer that is making great headway in utterly destroying human society...magnificently aided and abetted by both the ignorant and the stupid.
Simonline
I believe in morality, but I don't think Dawkins is massively wrong.
I don't think you can say that they 'should' be aborted, but I don't think there's anything wrong with aborting them. I don't think it's wrong to have an abortion for most reasons.
Is there any point at which you would not kill a baby for whatever convenience happens to come to mind?
This was a question I asked of a communist Chinese associate a few years ago and he freely admitted that he would kill the baby while it was yet unborn - but the same baby 5 minutes later - if born I would not kill.'
For him - killing babies was all about "where are they located".
I thought it was sad that atheist chinese communists thought of life that way.
No-one has yet said why a Fetus gets extra rights that other humans do not.
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