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Just so you know that you're not getting away with that nonsense.
As to "extreme complexity," characterize it it terms of Kolmgorov complexity and I'll show you how it is within reach of a continuous-time Markov process like random variation and selection. Here are the equations; go for it.
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Oops; the equations didn't post, but here's the link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolmogorov_equations_(Markov_jump_process)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolmogorov_equations_(Markov_jump_process)
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As a result of examination of that collection of things that you people run from......evidence.
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yeah....and? Again we have good evidence it could come about naturally, and once it does, it's just chemistry, you have to show that it can't come naturally, and done nothing but go, "Lalala this isn't possible>" funny how the people researching it don't buy that. Your line of argument fails, because it isn't going to convince anyone that knows even the slightest bit about evolution. That's why you guys wil fail time in and time out, I understand how evolution and abiogenesis and such works, so all your arguments are meaningless to me.
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Just so you know that you're not getting away with that nonsense.
As to "extreme complexity," characterize it it terms of Kolmgorov complexity and I'll show you how it is within reach of a continuous-time Markov process like random variation and selection. Here are the equations; go for it.
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As you see...it = 0.
Evolutionism fails again.
So, when you get around to showing how evolutionism can evolve such complexity....we'll all be here.
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Beep, beep back the truck up...you understand how evolution and abiogenesis and such works???
Really? You undertand abiogenesis???
You understand how evolutiuonism works yet can't explain how mutations add up?
...I have to assume you were joking.
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Yes, I'm sure the uninformed might see it like that.
Fortunately for most of us, our ignorance doesn't run so deeply.......
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I just did, but you can't do the math.
Once again, complexity as it applies to molecular biology is defined mathematically. Just saying "it's too complex" is ignorant nonsense.
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If someone did it would be noble prize material. In the meantime all they can do is complain the genetic code isn't really a code, which it is.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/the-skeptical-zone-asks-what-is-a-code/
Or have the same properties as language. Which it does:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00018-013-1394-1
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Ummmm we already have, multiple times.
Mutations happen all the time, EVERY birth has mutations, over time they add up, and ocasionally hit something novel, some times bad, but most of those never survive to even be born.
Get a few neutral mutations that don't effect the gene, but add a mutation that benefits from the neutral and bang, new novel feature. These things add up. Plus most things in evolution especially from monkeys to humans doesn't require massive changes to alot of things, just minor changes to what is already there.
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I don't need to demonstrate anything. You asked a question and I answered.
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Sure. It is different which is a strong indication it evolved independently. Many species use a primitive form of echolocation; even humans can do it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_echolocation
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