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adult content!

I have just about given up on this show completely!

I have had a love hate relationship with this show for so long! On the one hand, I really liked that the characters were not cookie cutter good guys, always knowing what to say, always doing the right thing.

On the other hand - I have lost patience with the father, a preacher who almost never discusses God and has done some really bizarre things, the middle daughter, also a preacher who is the most self centered character I've seen in a while, and the fact that most of the lessons that are learned are from outside this preachers' family, not within.

Also, they have missed a great many opportunities to portray Christian values within this family without being preachy, while making it seem that these Christian values are barely a part of their life.

Now, last night may have been the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Not only has Simon been making choices that have put him in danger and made purity values of Christians seem unimportant and irrelevant to the unchurched, but he and his girlfriend then went on to put a different but equally irresponsible spin on the issue of intimacy before marriage.

first - Simon sleeps with a variety of young women
then...he has a scare with pregnancy
then... he has a new scare with STD's
then... he makes a deal with God to wait until he's married to have sex again
then...his girlfriend doesn't understand why he won't sleep with her
(after all, she says, that's the difference between a friend and a
boyfriend, isn't it?)
then... he tells her he made a deal with God to wait until he is married
... she says do you think we might get married some day
...he says yeah, maybe
...she says are you asking me to marry you?
... he says, hmm, that would make us committed wouldn't it?
...she says yes to the question and the [proposal]
... and they decide that now it's ok to sleep together.

What a disappointment - just when I think they couldn't possibly make it worse ...
 

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the show isn't a witnessing tool though.
it's definitely not something that is trying to portray today's christian.
it's just...a show. entertainment.

they haven't decided to get married yet. ya their conversation showed that he would sleep with her if engaged...
but they aren't even engaged yet.
also the whole talk about marriage was her just being...manipulative?
cause he never asked her to marry her.
she was the one at the end who asked him to marry her.
and he ddin't look too positive about what to say.
 
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We like watching this show, and agree there is a love/hate relationship. It is still betteer than most so-called family shows these days but definitely sends out mixed messages. Simon should not even be dating that girl in the first place. Or he should have explained to her that despite his "deal with God" it is wrong. If this show is on in a few years I fear what they will do with the twin characters. :sigh:
 
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I used to like the show a lot, but not so much anymore. I think that it just got to cheesy. I didn't like how they make every show a theme. Everybody ends up going through the same basic thing. It's kinda odd. I also don't think they portray Christian values as they claim to do. It is a bad portrayal of Chrisitanity for those who may not be Christian and watching.
 
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CarrieAg93 said:
I saw a preview about yesterday's show where Matt said he found something out about Mary. I missed the show. What did he find out?

Mary has not only moved to Chicago and decided to divorce her husband, but she signed away custody of their son to him, so Carlos and the baby are moving to Puerto Rico.
 
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I used to love this show too and have lost interest in it over the past couple of seasons. I only watch it once in awhile now. Lucy has always annoyed the heck out of me! Her husband Kevin has always annoyed the heck out of me! I am sick of the Mary storylines too. Simon has turned into an idiot and he is starting to annoy the heck out of me! what has happened to this show. I can't believe they are taking Joan of arcadia off the air but leaving this show on! sigh!
 
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I used to love this show. In fact, my favourite episode is the one where the first bring the twins home, and it ends with the whole family singing "Just A Closer Walk with Thee."

Sadly, after they brought the twins in, the show started going downhill, IMHO.
 
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Meriadoc said:
It's the season finale tonight. Be interesting to see what they do.

I was thinking the same thing. I also hope that next season is the last one! I think that they have covered any topic/storyline that you can do.
 
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I used to really love the show, and I still watch the old re-runs happily. It seems that now the writers are grabbing for any idea they can. I started not liking it when Mary and Matt left the first time. I miss the old lighter shows where not everything was sooooo dramatic.
 
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