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[civilwarbuff]

No they don't, they push the cost onto the insurance companies and those who can afford insurance.

http://kff.org/report-section/uncom...-and-remaining-uncompensated-care-costs-8596/

 

[W2L]

I have never seen His name of the ballot. If I did I would vote for him; as is I vote for the one that I think comes closest to His word even if that is very far off.....refusing to vote solves nothing.

It puts faith in God rather than man. It also doesn't cause discord over worldly matters.

 

[Tull]

Jesus said woe unto the man who causes offences. You cant force the gospel onto people. Instead you do good for them, and love them.

Are you aware of the scripture where Jesus said he did not come to bring peace but a sword,to divide people,the righteous from the unrightous ?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Perhaps its so I can share the truth with you. Maybe its for your benefit.

No need; been there, done that.

 

[W2L]

Are you aware of the scripture where Jesus said he did not come to bring peace but a sword,to divide people,the righteous from the unrightous ?

Yes, he was talking about the Church being separate from the world. That sword is the one I'm wielding

 

[Tull]

It puts faith in God rather than man. It also doesn't cause discord over worldly matters.

So if someone told you they supported murder of unborn children you would still call that person a brother/sister ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Er no, you've pronounced some pretty terse judgments here.

Only against sin,
what God's Word says.
We cannot say the truth on this forum due to strictly enforce rules.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Rome was pretty Godless too, yet it never hindered the Church.

Rome always hindered the church, finally causing God to remove them from the area.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Jesus said woe unto the man who causes offences. You cant force the gospel onto people. Instead you do good for them, and love them.

Does that include 'tough love'?

 

[W2L]

So if someone told you they supported murder of unborn children you would still call that person a brother/sister ?

I cannot comment it would break the rules. However I can say that a person who would refuse to aid children with food stamps and HC isn't much better.

 

[mindlight]

America is not the Church. You are trying to force the Gospel onto the world instead of sharing love with them. It wont work. Its futile. You are playing a game that you cant win. Its rigged. Its all deception. Open your eyes.

Spot on and the theme of my sermon on Sunday. The Pharisees used their knowledge and obsession with the law to lord it over others. But really this was all about pride and power. Jesus by contrast loved people, he healed them when they were sick, educated them when they were ignorant, exorcised them when they were possessed and ultimately died for them to save from their sins. We always need to ask if we speak out of love for the good of others or out of ego and in order to magnify ourselves and our own agendas.

A merely political and a nationalistic church is a curse and not a blessing to those it preaches to.

 

[Tull]

Yes, he was talking about the Church being separate from the world. That sword is the one I'm wielding

So that's why it goes on to say" for I am come to set a man at varience against his father and the daughter against her mother,and the daughter in law against her mother in law,and a man's foes shall be those of his own household"......what was that about the world again ? the world is not some abstract meaningless term,it means people.

 

[W2L]

Rome always hindered the church, finally causing God to remove them from the area.

Yet Paul never railed against Rome or caused division in the Church by calling people to fight against Rome. He preached that the Church come out of Rome and be separate. To paul, the whole world was godless. He didn't promote Godly nations but a godly Church.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Spot on and the theme of my sermon on Sunday. The Pharisees used their knowledge and obsession with the law to lord it over others. But really this was all about pride and power. Jesus by contrast loved people, he healed them when they were sick, educated them when they were ignorant, exorcised them when they were possessed and ultimately died for them to save from their sins. We always need to ask if we speak out of love for the good of others or out of ego and in order to magnify ourselves and our own agendas.

A merely political and a nationalistic church is a curse and not a blessing to those it preaches to.

But did he die for the Pharisees as well, after condemning them as the children of Satan?

 

[W2L]

So that's why it goes on to say" for I am come to set a man at varience against his father and the daughter against her mother,and the daughter in law against her mother in law,and a man's foes shall be those of his own household"......what was that about the world again ? the world is not some abstract meaningless term,it means people.

Yes because Jesus knew that some Jews would reject him. Jesus wasn't telling the Jews to take over Israel though. He instead told them to give up lands for his sake. Not conquer land but give it up.

 

[civilwarbuff]

No...that's not what the Democratic Party is about....
Sorry, but you seem like a idiot

OOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it was such a good thread......

 

[Tull]

I cannot comment it would break the rules. However I can say that a person who would refuse to aid children with food stamps and HC isn't much better.

No use in even trying to figure that one out,refusing aid to children is different than refusing it to adults who use their children as a meal ticket.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Yet Paul never railed against Rome or caused division in the Church by calling people to fight against Rome. He preached that the Church come out of Rome and be separate. To paul, the whole world was godless. He didn't promote Godly nations but a godly Church.

The point was that 'Rome' always persecuted the saints and tried to destroy them long after Paul's day. God finally took them to a place of safety in the 'wilderness' (what is now America).

 

[Tull]

Yes because Jesus knew that some Jews would reject him. Jesus wasn't telling the Jews to take over Israel though. He instead told them to give up lands for his sake. Not conquer land but give it up.

Who said anything about taking anything over,your tactic is to wear somebody down by repeating things they never said over and over again....give up indeed.....the world will be taken over by Jesus someday.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

OOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it was such a good thread......

Yeah, I'm waiting for the shoe to drop as well (oh well, another day, another thread).