7 Day creation- literal or figurative?

Aman777 · Nov 8, 2016

mmksparbud said:
I suggest you read your bible to get what was done on each of the days right---0you never have figured it out. Gen 1 and 2 are the same account--but you never have figured that out either.

Genesis chapter 1 is the complete History of God's 6 Days/Ages of Creation. Gen 2:1-3 speaks of a FUTURE time, the 7th Day, which has NO ending.

EVERY other verse in the Bible refers BACK to one of God's 7 Days shown in the first 34 verses of Genesis.

IOW, Gen 2 refers to a future 7th Day, then takes us back to the 3rd Day when man was made before the plants herbs and rain. The narrative continues until Gen 1:27 because God is STILL creating mankind in His Image or in Christ Today. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy.

mmksparbud · Nov 8, 2016

No--Gen 1 and 2 are about the same creation week.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 8, 2016

mmksparbud said:
So what, exactly is the message to those of the 3rd day?

Fourth day Church dogma, which is actually, for those of the third day. Today, now, is the fourth day.

pat34lee · Nov 8, 2016

Aman777 said:
Didn't you notice the time when man was "formed" of the dust which was BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain of the 3rd Day? Gen 2:4-6

Genesis 2 is not a retelling of Genesis 1.
It is a closeup of day 6, giving details of
the creation of Eden and God's first
dealings with Adam. The first chapter
only gave a broad overview of the week
of creation.

pat34lee · Nov 8, 2016

Kenneth Redden said:
Fourth day Church dogma, which is actually, for those of the third day. Today, now is the fourth day.

Today is the sixth day, and it is about to end.

mmksparbud · Nov 9, 2016

LOL!!--That's enough of this nonsense! Now it's Paul is giving a message to the earth, and water that God separated, the plants, the sun moon and stars, what God created on day 3 and 4.Not wasting any more time on this! Enjoy whatever it is you want to believe

Kenneth Redden · Nov 9, 2016

pat34lee said:
Genesis 2 is not a retelling of Genesis 1.
It is a closeup of day 6, giving details of
the creation of Eden and God's first
dealings with Adam. The first chapter
only gave a broad overview of the week
of creation.

Genesis 2:4 tells us that the heavens and the earth were created from everlasting (Genesis 1:1), and made on the first day (Genesis 1:3-5).

Aman777 · Nov 9, 2016

mmksparbud said:
No--Gen 1 and 2 are about the same creation week.

Amen. God has but 7 Days/Ages and the 7th has NO evening, NO end, because it's eternity.

Aman777 · Nov 9, 2016

pat34lee said:
Genesis 2 is not a retelling of Genesis 1.
It is a closeup of day 6, giving details of
the creation of Eden and God's first
dealings with Adam. The first chapter
only gave a broad overview of the week
of creation.

Amen. Genesis One is the entire 6 Day HISTORY of God's creation including events which happen AFTER Jesus returns at the end of the present 6th Day. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy of those FUTURE events. Isa 11:7 details the events at the end of the the 6th Day when ALL creatures become vegetarians, including Lions.

Genesis 2:1-3 speaks of the 7th Day.
Gen 2:4-19 speaks of Day 3 and the current 6th Day. IOW, Genesis two speaks of 3 Days and not just the 6th Day. Like ALL of the rest of the Bible, from Genesis 2:4 to the end of Revelation refers BACK to the 7 Days of Creation shown in the first 34 verses of Genesis.

The narrative of Genesis One STOPS at Gen 1:27 since God is STILL creating Adam (Hebrew-mankind) in Christ Spiritually. We will NOT advance to the prophecy of Gen 1:28-31 until AFTER Jesus comes BACK to this Earth.

Aman777 · Nov 9, 2016

Kenneth Redden said:
Genesis 2:4 tells us that the heavens and the earth were created from everlasting (Genesis 1:1), and made on the first day (Genesis 1:3-5).

Not so, since Gen 2:4 speaks of the 3rd Day of Creation, the SAME Day Adam's Earth was made.

Gen 2:4 ¶ These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

The first Earth was made on the 3rd Day according to:

Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth;
Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Genesis 2:4 is taking us BACK to the 3rd Day and adds details of the formation of Adam AND the creation of other HEAVENS/Universes. This is ALSO the first time the term "Lord God" is used. Lord God is Adonai YHWH in Hebrew and He is the only God ever formed or that ever will be formed physically. In the New Testament, He's called Jesus Christ. Amen?

Kenneth Redden · Nov 10, 2016

Aman777 said:
Amen. God has but 7 Days/Ages and the 7th has NO evening, NO end, because it's eternity.

Yes; but those, "days" (2 Peter 3:3), have occurred, "as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore" (Genesis 22:17 KJV), "from everlasting to everlasting" (Psalms 90:2, Psalms 103:17 & Psalms 106:48 KJV). So, pick one; lol.

Aman777 · Nov 10, 2016

Kenneth Redden said:
Yes; but those, "days" (2 Peter 3:3), have occurred, "as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore" (Genesis 22:17 KJV), "from everlasting to everlasting" (Psalms 90:2, Psalms 103:17 & Psalms 106:48 KJV). So, pick one; lol.

You have failed to understand that God has ONLY 7 Days and the 7th Day is Eternity. You keep thinking that the 6th Day is in the past but that does NOT agree with Gen 1:28-31, which will NOT happen until AFTER Jesus returns at the end of the present 6th Day. The CREATION (the 3rd Heaven) will be forever. It began on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4 and it will NEVER end.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 10, 2016

Aman777 said:
You have failed to understand that God has ONLY 7 Days and the 7th Day is Eternity. You keep thinking that the 6th Day is in the past but that does NOT agree with Gen 1:28-31, which will NOT happen until AFTER Jesus returns at the end of the present 6th Day. The CREATION (the 3rd Heaven) will be forever. It began on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4 and it will NEVER end.

But yes God has only seven days, which I believe reoccur; thus the plural form of, "heavens," in Genesis 2:1.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 11, 2016

mmksparbud said:
So what, exactly is the message to those of the 3rd day?

And what is the message to those of the 4th day?

The message to those of the third day is much like what is taught in the Christian Church today.
The message to us of the fourth day concerns the mystery of God in the days of the Creation.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 11, 2016

I believe there is one earth and many heavens. Genesis 2:4 is "when they were created," "in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens," "the beginning" of the Creation.
The second day begins in Genesis 6:1, with, "waters," in Genesis 6:17 and "waters" in Genesis 1:6. The third day begins in Genesis 8:1 with the words, “green herb,” in Genesis 9:3, from, “green herb,” in Genesis 1:30.

We are on the fourth day, as written in Revelation 6:8, and Christ returns in Revelation 6:12. The fifth day is seen in Revelation 20:4-6, as prophesied in Revelation 6:9-11 with the sixth day beginning Revelation 20:7, and with the end of the KJV Bible; everlasting eternity.

Aman777 · Nov 11, 2016

Kenneth Redden said:
But yes God has only seven days, which I believe reoccur; thus the plural form of, "heavens," in Genesis 2:1.

No need to "reoccur" since a "heaven" is defined in Genesis. It's the boundary of a world. Adam's firmament surrounded his Earth and protected the first Earth from the water into which it was placed. Gen 1:6-8 Water was above and below this firmament Gen 1:7. If water is above and below the boundary of any world, it is totally surrounded by water. It's the way water works. Adam's firmament was made the SECOND Day. Gen 1:8

Other, additional heavenS (plural) were made on the THIRD Day, the SAME Day Adam's Earth was made, according to Gen 2:4. God's Truth shows that He made THREE Heavens or Universes before the 3rd Day. The plural form of HeavenS has nothing to do with His Days or Ages of Creation. It is telling us that God made a Multi-verse composed of at least 3 Heavens or Universes. Amen?

Kenneth Redden · Nov 12, 2016

Aman777 said:
No need to "reoccur" since a "heaven" is defined in Genesis. It's the boundary of a world. Adam's firmament surrounded his Earth and protected the first Earth from the water into which it was placed. Gen 1:6-8 Water was above and below this firmament Gen 1:7. If water is above and below the boundary of any world, it is totally surrounded by water. It's the way water works. Adam's firmament was made the SECOND Day. Gen 1:8

Yes, I believe it reoccurs; beginning with "heaven" in Genesis 1:1 and ending with "heavens" in Genesis 2:1. It appears as though every doublet of days in the KJV Bible, begin with a plural root. 2 Peter 3:3-8 uses, "scoffers," for the one to those of the third day and, "days," for the one to us, reading the KJV Bible in the 21st Century.

Aman777 said:
Other, additional heavenS (plural) were made on the THIRD Day, the SAME Day Adam's Earth was made, according to Gen 2:4. God's Truth shows that He made THREE Heavens or Universes before the 3rd Day. The plural form of HeavenS has nothing to do with His Days or Ages of Creation. It is telling us that God made a Multi-verse composed of at least 3 Heavens or Universes. Amen?

You are confused. Please give your support.

myownmynativeland · Nov 12, 2016

pinkmatter said:
I'm after thoughts and opinions Gods 7-day creation. Did Moses right it as a narrative to the Israelites? Is Genesis all figurative language?

Thoughts and opinions on the controversial topic!

The Bible was Given to us as a Guide to how to get to Heaven, not as a cosmology text and should not be shoehorned into such a role.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 12, 2016

myownmynativeland said:
The Bible was Given to us as a Guide to how to get to Heaven, not as a cosmology text and should not be shoehorned into such a role.

No; the Bible is, "the Revelation of Jesus Christ", which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John. Revelation 1:1.

myownmynativeland · Nov 12, 2016

Kenneth Redden said:
No; the Bible is, "the Revelation of Jesus Christ", which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John. Revelation 1:1.

Sooooooo, you feel that the Bible IS a cosmology text?

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