Gullibility does not prove anything.
Speculations = evolution
Actual observations = speciation (not evolution)
How does this show evolution is a dying theory?
And so on and so forth. As I have said who has more to gain in deceiving and less to lose in interpreting the facts to fit their model? Tsk, Tsk, on the evolutionist for telling us that there were hundreds of vestial organs left over as the result of our evolutionary heritage, well guess what today many of these organs do have functions, and if I would have believed that the Bible was true that God did create the kinds as He said He did then I would have been right!
Old Russian proverb: Fooled me once, shame on you, fooled me twice shame on me.
Not just vestigial organs, what about the inormation for a tail in the human genome, why do bats have eyes when they are blind?
And so have I, and it is that the Bible is the inspired book of God and it is the truth. It seems our only difference is our starting point yours being outside influence, and me the infallible word of God, that is why our conclusions are different. The point is we are all sinners, how can we trust our own interpretations of anything.
fallen man + fallen mind = fallible theories
Actually i was a creationist for a long time, but then I decided to stop ignoring the evidence for evolution.
Science tries to weed out human fallacy as much as possible to gain a more accurate result. Evidence from God's creation shows us evolution occurs, Augustine considered Creation God's second "book" because it tells us how He worked.
Because there is no evolutionary relationship between the species, if our closest ancestors were apes why is it not possible to exchange a single organ, tissue, or let alone a drop of bodily fluid between the species without it being attacked as foreign matter? If the differences are mainly physical features as evolution has duped us into believing - then it would be possible without one rejecting the other, but we see exactly the opposite when it is attempted.
Uh because they are separate species?
The science that allows us to land on the moon, the science that you and I are using to communicate, the science governed by the laws of nature God has put into place that are neither capricious nor unpredictable.
So you aren't actually a scientist? You don't need to understand the inner workings of something to know how to use it.
Because I am not an astronomer, nor am I a geologist. Furthermore I could careless about the fields because each claims to have proven that there is no evidence for God, and that there was no global flood. These fields make such bold statements about the past that cannot be proven because no one was there to begin with.
So what, you aren't a bioogist either. Science NEVER claims to be able to prove or disprove God, sure atheists might misinterpret it to do that but that is not how real science works. Science cannot comment on God because He is supernatural and unpredictable, therefore cannot be tested or falsified because with the supernatural anything is possible.
I am simply saying that you are willing to believe in only what you can see with your evolutionary view of the world as I once did. Until we see the world through our biblical glasses we will always place our faith in our own interpretation of this world and not what God is telling us.
What "evolutionary view of the world"? Is there also a "gravtionary view of the world"?
What really matters is what does God's word say. And of course if you have done some reading on the history of the church you would realize that many could not read the scriptures for themselves and was wrongly lead into believing that you could earn your way to heaven and among such false teachings were that dying in battle fighting infidels or heathens would grant instant eternal life. And of course we know now from our own readings of the scriptures that it is not the case the gift of eternal life is a free gift of God, for no one is good enough, not one.
Actually I have studied church history at Advanced Level (UK exams). I agree that laymen should try and interpret scripture on their own, that is why I trust most theolgians, who now agree that Genesis is not literal.
Well for one it allows us to reinterpret that if salvation is a free gift then why bother following Gods commandments when we can accept His gift and continue to live in sin. My point is by inviting outside influence to affect our understanding of what is written, what is to stop us from going to even further extremes? You simply need to trust God more and man less.
How does HOW God created have anything yo do with our salvation?
What is wrong with studying God's creation, which has been preserved and untampered by man, unike the Bible we have today, in order to help us interpret scripture.
Yes, but do realize that God is not a God who deceives. If God is the God of truth then what He says is true and everything that we see should follow His words. Instead of interpreting the world using only our own fallen view of the world and doubting what God said He has done, I challenge you see the world according to what God has said He has done and then the HS will open your eyes.
I know God does not deceive, which is why I accept the evidence from His creation that He used evolution. Why would God plan false evidence?
Once more you have removed the sin factor. As I have said, sin keeps us away from the truth of God. And until they truly confess with their own tongues that they are sinners then they will not see the truth of God. Augustine was simply a man of God, he was not God.
I haven't removed sin. But if you do not have faith in scientists then why do you use the knowledge they provide, why do you use your computer, sicne it was invented by falliable men.
I understand, you are not the only one, I have been there myself. What is of importance here is that you must first start with God's word, not man's theories whether it be creationists or evolutionists.
But is there anything wrong with looking at God's creation/reality to help us interpret scripture. How are you any different than geocentricists, who used the Bible to back up their belief that the solar system revolved around the earth?
Written by fallible men I suppose. They do not say anything against God, but what are the implications to someone who does not know JC? Origins without a creator means moral conduct without accountability which sounds better to you if you were a non believer?
Evolution does not mean "origins without a creator", that is atheism.
"Christians should view evolution as the method by which God created".
What is boring is that in what they are saying they have already ruled out the existence of God and therefore everything they say becomes gibberish and meaningless. Because our ultimate purpose in life is to worship and praise God and be in communion with Him. And when you take away God, there is no meaning, no purpose no guidance except for our own selfish reasons and personal gains.
But science never tries to take away or disprove God, He is beyond their scope. Science just takes away the "god-of-the-gaps", I mean people used to believe lightning was caused directly by God, but no most people do not believe lightning is God getting angry, but static electricity discharging to the earth. Ultimately God is responsible for the laws of nature, but that does not mean He is sitting pushing the planet around in their orbits, etc.
Satans children (atheists) = evolutionists
Half breed = theistic evolutionists
Gods children = believers of His word (creationism)
Oh so Theistic Evolutionists aren't "True Christians(TM)" but merely half breeds. I wonder how God if God likes you doing His job for him.
Yes, Christians who doubt the omnipotent God of the Bible and compromise His words with those of impotent men. Obviously it is clear we have the same God given hardware, but our operating systems are different. Gods children should learn to trust God more and men less
Why does evolution doubt God's omnipotence?
No evidence for evolution. Go read the book Mans Origin, Mans Destiny by A.E. Wilder-Smith
No, of course not, scientists, many of whom were Christians have simmply been delusional for 100 of years, you on the other hand who have never studies evolution directly know better.
