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Pickle said "I got involved out of a desire to see God's cause and truth be saved from reproach."I will repeat, if necessary in every post, EMBEZZLER. Turn and twist how much you want - CONVICTED EMBEZZLER. No overturning on appeal, nothing. Embezzled. Stole. Got caught.
I'll be more plainer. Your words, actions and every accusation and allegation you have made all point to one thing. "Must bring down 3ABN."
And when I do get the ability to post the URLs I will pinpoint each and every one of your words so that people can see how much you want to bring down 3ABN.
There is nothing inappropriate in identifying evil by its proper name.
You are incorrect in your reasoning. The straight testimony is the truth of the Bible. It isn't you trying to tear town God's work. When the straight testimony is given, it will cause the shaking because many will not want to hear it. They will leave the church because they will not want to hear the truths of the Bible.You two sound a bit like Ahab telling Elijah, "Are you the one who is troubling Israel?"
According to Early Writings, the shaking will be caused by people rising up against the straight testimony called forth by the counsel of the True Witness. This implies that the straight testimony will have died out or been crushed out.
Now if someone today can't speak out against the cover up of child molestation allegations without being called a jackal and a liar, then I'd say that what Early Writings predicted has come true. And your rising up against the efforts of those who would like to see grievous wrongs corrected is also a fulfillment of that prediction.
the term straight testimony ad shaking are not in the bible. who how can it be the bible.You are incorrect in your reasoning. The straight testimony is the truth of the Bible. It isn't you trying to tear town God's work. When the straight testimony is given, it will cause the shaking because many will not want to hear it. They will leave the church because they will not want to hear the truths of the Bible.
The truths of the Bible and you trying to tear down 3abn are two different things.
Also, how many years ago was Gailon convicted in Vermont of keeping money that was owed to him? How many years?
While Tommy has been accused of sexual misconduct occurring as recently as 2000, I don't recall Gailon being accused of keeping money owed to him that recently.
If you two want to hold something against Gailon that occurred in the early '80's I think, and use that to disregard every fact he brings to the table today, I have to ask you, do you have a problem with grace as well as the straight testimony?
Do you throw out of your Bibles everything written by Paul since he is a murderer? How about Moses for the same reason? We have no record that James ever repented of his hard feelings against Paul, though I'm sure he did. Have you thrown out James too? How about Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Song of Solomon, since David and Solomon had problems too?
"The present truth had an effect upon his heart, and for a time its influence restrained his conduct. He meant to be a Christian, but he never saw the blackness of his sins in the past.
The way you talk, it would seem like we are the ones being accused of:Funny thing is, this can be applied to you, Gailon and Daryl, especially the part about the "blackness of his sins in the past" - which would apply to Gailon.
What is relevant here is that those who are making these false accusations, insinuations and allogations against 3abn are in the wrong.The way you talk, it would seem like we are the ones being accused of:
But we aren't the ones who have done these things. You're talking to the wrong folks.
- Molesting children, and of covering it up, and of threatening with lawsuits those who talked, and of lying on global TV about it all.
- Calling Linda's daughter a liar on global TV when she says that Danny sexually assaulted her.
- Accusing Linda on global TV of having the spirit of Antichrist.
- Calling Danny the Lords' anointed, of being beyond the reach of correction by church or state, all on global TV.
- Declaring it to be wrong on global TV to disagree with Danny.
To all reading this discussion, let it be known that Seventh-day Adventists as a whole do not condone child molestation, lying about child molestation, using the airwaves to declare one's opponents to be pawns of Satan, divorcing wives because they hid our guns, accusing our wives with thinking they got pregnant over the telephone.
Seventh-day Adventists have been unaware of the corruption of Danny Shelton. We bear long with the sinner, for God does. But He has limits and so do we. We don't tolerate this kind of thing.
Of course, every faith has its fringes, and we do too. You can find a few that will attack those who raise questions about child molestation and lying. But their opinions and name calling are not representative of our faith, beliefs, and practices.
Rosie55 said:I am afraid I don't trust anything from either one of them nor from their "followers."
It matters not whether Gailon and Linda lied or didn't, repented or didn't. That's irrelevant.
That, Pickle, is NOT a fact. That is something you, as usual, have managed to extrapolate from fiction. What is fact, irrefutable fact, is that Gailon and Linda are the liars and cheats.The facts are that Walt Thompson said that Danny told him that the Tommy Shelton child molestation allegations are 30 years old when they aren't, and that they are all due to a feud between Dryden and Tommy when they aren't.
I have never known the police to _not_ pursue allegations of sexual abuse, especially against minors. Did you ever wonder why they did not? Of course not. In the light of what you have posted, lies are truth, allegations are facts.The police, to my knowledge, have never pursued the allegations against Tommy arising from his conduct toward Duane Clem or the fellow that came forward on January 24. And I don't know that they have pursued Roger Clem's allegations either.
The way you talk, it would seem like we are the ones being accused of:...
That SDAs as a whole, do not indulge in the kind of tactics used by Pickle and "friends."To all reading this discussion, let it be known that Seventh-day Adventists as a whole do not ...
This is the exactly the kind of statement that exposes you as someone who makes allegations. You have already stated "Danny is corrupt" and of course, now it must be truth. What about the documented corruption of Gailon and Linda?Seventh-day Adventists have been unaware of the corruption of Danny Shelton.
It is a fact. It's an irrefutable fact. Walt Thompson told me that himself in writing.That, Pickle, is NOT a fact. That is something you, as usual, have managed to extrapolate from fiction.
I agree that at least some of this should not be here. And SteffanPhilip is not helping the situation, which is what has happened over at BSDA.This is one of the major problems with ....
It is a fact. It's an irrefutable fact.
I agree that at least some of this should not be here. And SteffanPhilip is not helping the situation, which is what has happened over at BSDA.
Nobody defended child molestation and yet you have immediately tarred people as 1. supporters of child molestation 2. defenders of Danny. Shame on you. I defend the truth and speak out against evil words.The vitriol of Danny's defenders, and their willingness to defend things like child molestation at all costs, has made his case look much, much worse.
Pickle said:So do you have a suggestion for how we extricate ourselves from this predicament here on this thread? I got invited to come and post here, so I thought I would. Now I wonder if that was really wise.
Feel free to get specific and explain how Walt did not say what he said.You see how once again you take fiction and make it into fact. You took separate, disconnected statements, refused to consider any context and all of a sudden, have "irrefutable" facts. Not good at all. In fact, coming from you, not believable at all.
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