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[apsalmistspraise]

Huh?


You contradict yourself here...

You're right, God is not cryptic... which is WHY He says to study to show yourself approved.

What are we to study? His Word... which lays out His truth in a simple straightforward manner. Not "hidden" meanings that only the "spiritual" can figure out. Such is actually the very definition of "occult" (which means "hidden").

Yes, scripture (particularly) the OT is full of types and shadows-- yet those are clearly fulfilled in Christ, and the NT authors clearly explain such. Unfortunately, it is an all too effective tool of the enemy to get people to spend their time trying to find something "secret" that proves how "spiritual" they are instead of just being obedient to the plain meaning of scripture.

Throughout Church history, these same issues keep popping up... basically a regurgitation of gnosticism from the first century Church, which the NT authors refuted repeatedly.

I just dont believe that it is cryptic for God to say Study to shew yourself approved. It is only cryptic NEEDLESSLY for those who do not research. lol i guess it is semantics.

 

[Strong in Him]

I just dont believe that it is cryptic for God to say Study to shew yourself approved. It is only cryptic NEEDLESSLY for those who do not research. lol i guess it is semantics.

Of course it's not - but that's nothing to do with it. I said that it would be cryptic of God to give people a number, or let them constantly see a number, and then not tell them what that number refers to. If God had repeatedly given a Bible reference to 327, then of course (s)he could study the word to find out what it meant and how to apply it. Bu there was no reference, just a number. That is the cryptic bit, which I was saying I do not believe God would do. When he speaks, he wants us to know about it and to be sure that we get the message.

 

[youthwalk]

that is true, but just because a person believes that something does not mean that they are psychotic. it's mean.
Blessings
bithiah2

With all due respect, she didn't say anyone was psychotic. She said she should see a psychiatrist. This is the stigma I'm talking about. You need not be stark raving crazy to need to see a psychiatrist.

People believe a lot of "wrong", horrible and demeaning things are true...dangerous psychotics included. Doesn't mean that we shouldn't point out where we think there's a problem. Especially when the person asks for an opinion.

 

[apsalmistspraise]

so you are then defining this viewing a number randomly yet all the time is WRONG and therefore someone should see a therapist? or am misunderstanding. Maybe we should start putting God in a box. we'll call it the God-box and if it isnt something we are comfortable with with we will just claim it as nothing. And forget about all the other ways that God can work.... after all even though the Bible says that the words of the Book cannot contain ALL of what the Lord has done, we should only use what we know has happened in the BIble.

I am sorry but I will not. I do not believe in God-boxes. They hinder God from doing things beyond my comprehension, including showing me a bible verse I need by displaying a number i could see on any given day flash on a digiatal dial or something.
God works in mysterious ways not just the obvious.

 

[Svt4Him]

so you are then defining this viewing a number randomly yet all the time is WRONG and therefore someone should see a therapist? or am misunderstanding. Maybe we should start putting God in a box. we'll call it the God-box and if it isnt something we are comfortable with with we will just claim it as nothing. And forget about all the other ways that God can work.... after all even though the Bible says that the words of the Book cannot contain ALL of what the Lord has done, we should only use what we know has happened in the BIble.

I am sorry but I will not. I do not believe in God-boxes. They hinder God from doing things beyond my comprehension, including showing me a bible verse I need by displaying a number i could see on any given day flash on a digiatal dial or something.
God works in mysterious ways not just the obvious.

1236 542 01235 01158732321 456.

5456 54654 8 72156 8431 55844 2318 5613 4812269 26598 565986 & 54878 45651.

Love G-d.

 

[Strong in Him]

They hinder God from doing things beyond my comprehension, including showing me a bible verse I need by displaying a number i could see on any given day flash on a digiatal dial or something.
God works in mysterious ways not just the obvious.

This is the whole point, and is what I've been saying. The OP was NOT given a Bible verse.

Of course God can bring Scriptures to mind have someone write a Bible reference as graffiti on a wall, or leave a scripture card lying around somewhere. And it's possible that if you know your Bible well and see the numbers 8:28 on your clock when you wake up, you'll immediately think of Romans 8:28 and be edified by it. But that verse would readily come to mind because you already know it and find it special. Similarly with John 3:16 or any other verse that you know well or is special. If the Holy Spirit wants to prompt you to remember your favourite verse by showing you a number, he is perfectly able and entitled to do so.
But this is NOT what has been happening here. How does the OP know that 327 refers to a Bible verse? They don't, otherwise they wouldn't have come on this forum to ask what we thought it meant.

 

[apsalmistspraise]

and my thought, is that the Op should then, other than asking us, go into communion with God and ask Him what the meaning is. because asking us is only causing the OP unneeded problems with some saying they need a psyc evaluation ...which is not very 'christian' at all to tell someone in the first place which is why I am so frustrated.

 

[ANM29]

Well I don't know about anyone else but I didn't say that. I said that it sounds like numerology, which I think is a bit dodgy. Someone else then said that numerology is connected with the occult.
That doesn't mean that we were saying that because the OP mentioned numbers they are into numerology. But then again, they could be going that way without even realising it.



Well of course it doesn't mean that we shouldn't be on it, and of course God uses it. The internet is a tool, a method of communication. We can use it to communicate and have fellowship with other Christians, give prayer support, link to church services, post Bible verses and teaching and encourage each other in the faith. We can be in touch with Christians we might never meet and read the works, teachings and sermons of great Christians and preachers.
Other people use this method of communication to promote their own beliefs, fantasies and desires. And in some cases they may be violent, pornographic or anti christian beliefs.

Anything good that gets invented also gets distorted or perverted by some people. And anything that God does, the devil tries to counterfeit.



He can use it for his glory, but he may not always do so. He used a star to lead the Magi to Jesus. They were astrologers, or astonomers, and used to looking in the sky for signs; so God gave them a sign and it led them to his Son. That does not mean that God condones astrology - he used the star because the Magi were stargazers. The Jews weren't, they had God's word for guidance, so when Herod asked where the Messiah was to be born, they looked it up in the Scriptures. (Matthew 2:3-6)
If a non Christian was a mathematician or accountant and God wanted to get their attention, he'd use numbers. That doesn't mean that numbers are his preferred, or chief, method of communication. If he uses them, he uses them just like we use the internet, to communicate.

As I also said, I, personally, do not see what he can possibly communicate through numbers that he hasn't already plainly said in his word, or through his Son. It's too cryptic and open to misinterpretation. If God wants to talk to you, or anyone here, he can do it far more directly that by having certain numbers keep appearing on a clock, or whatever. He could certainly direct you to his word, and his Son, by having certain Scriptures pop up everywhere, but not random numbers that could mean anything. The signs that God gives point to Jesus.



I don't know what you're saying here .
If we can trust God in small things, we can trust him in big things too, but that's got nothing to do with numbers.

It has everything to do with numbers, and everything else.

 

[Strong in Him]

It has everything to do with numbers, and everything else.

What does that mean? That's even more cryptic than the OP. Trusting God has nothing to do with numbers.

 

[Svt4Him]

What does that mean? That's even more cryptic than the OP. Trusting God has nothing to do with numbers.

Well it does in part. Without numbers, there'd only be 65 books in the Bible.


/me slowly leaves the thread!

 

[Ajax 777]

Hahahahaha

 

[Strong in Him]

Well it does in part. Without numbers, there'd only be 65 books in the Bible.

LOL - very true.

*Svt4Him slowly leaves the thread!

Slowly? I'd do a runner if I were you.

Mind you, I am me, and I could do a runner too if I wanted. Has 327 done a runner - have we scared him/her off?

 

[ANM29]

What does that mean? That's even more cryptic than the OP. Trusting God has nothing to do with numbers.

lol! You have misinterpreted what I said..So, no need to even reply anymore...

 

[Strong in Him]

lol! You have misinterpreted what I said..So, no need to even reply anymore...

Well ok then - if you don't feel your post is worth explaining so that I can understand.

 

[apsalmistspraise]

wow this thread isnt getting very far with the numbers bit...maybe the question should of been; do you think that God can use anythig for his glory INCLUDING having a certain number show up around you to get you to think about if there is a meaning behind the number that God is trying to show you>???

 

[Strong in Him]

maybe the question should of been; do you think that God can use anythig for his glory

Yes.

INCLUDING having a certain number show up around you to get you to think about if there is a meaning behind the number that God is trying to show you>???

In order for a certain repetitive number/sequence of numbers to glorify God, you would first have to know that it was God who sent it/them. You would have to know that it was God who was directing you to look at a clock at a certain time, or whatever, and not the devil/your subconscious, and you would have to be able to work out what the numbers meant, otherwise you wouldn't know how God was to be glorified.
And as I have said, I don't believe that God would be that cryptic. He wants us to know what he is saying to us so that we can obey him - so he's not going to send the message in code, is he? Why would he want to be secretive/enigmatic like that when he has spoken to us so plainly through his word?

Numbers are all around us, often repeated in various sequences. here in the UK one of the numbers for directory enquires is 118 118 - It's advertised all over the place, even on the tv. What do the numbers mean? Nothing, they have been chosen by the company most likely because they are repetitive and easy to remember. Similarly with 999 (our number for the emergency services.)
I could use either of these in a sermon illustration, to talk about God - eg, when you want direction, or help, go to God. Or ask people what they think God's telephone number would be (P-R-A-Y-E-R, for example.) But I don't look at the numbers 999 and think "they're coming up rather a lot, it must be some sort of divine message."

I used to be like this with guidance. I'd think "these circumstances must mean that God is trying to show me something; this answered prayer must be proof that he is with me and loves me". But his word had already told me both of those things. If God wants you to know something, he'll tell you plainly, and most likely reaffirm it through other people, sermons, Bible verses etc. In other words, God speaks through words. Numbers are unintelligible and open to misinterpretation.

 

[327]

54 day care facilities thus adding His promise that He wanted to make me a billionaire.

oh come on......

with numbers the nomber most striking to me is 119, which means psalms 119, which means read my word ! whenever i see 119 it means to me "read my word ".

Hmm...lol so your calling God a liar?

 

[Father Rick]

Hmm...lol so your calling God a liar?

I don't think anyone is calling God a liar here...

rather it's a discussion of the accuracy of our hearing Him/understanding what He is saying.

 

[327]

Yes, this almost sounds like a form of divination...
and I am sorry, but I do not think for a second God wants to make you a billionaire.

He Himself says, "How hard it will be for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God!"

He Himself says no man can serve two masters; you cannot serve both God and money.

When the rich man, who already had wealth, asked Lord Jesus what he must do to inherit eternal life,
the one thing Jesus told him to do which he could not do was to go and sell all that he had,
and give the money to the poor, then to come and follow Him.

No, I do not think for a second God would want for you to acquire great worldly wealth,
and to lay up treasures for yourself which will fade, but rather, to be rich in the things of God,
and to acquire for yourself a money belt which will NEVER fade.
Lay up for yourself treasure in Heaven instead.

I'd search the Scriptures long and hard about this, and pray.
What you heard this from was very possibly NOT God.

This is interesting that someone would say this because this money is not for me. God gave me a billion dollar ministry and if you have any problems with it, maybe you should talk to Him about it. Its just He gave me assignment and I have to obey Him so I’m sorry that you feel that way. The Lord wants me to do so much for children because children are our future. Plus I already live the million dollar lifestyle and trust me It isn’t all that. Plus I never was really into materialistic things. It sounds like I am trying to convince you but um nah. I just feel bad for the Lord that He has no faith to operate in. I could tell you EVERYTHING He is given me but for what, only a person of faith can digest.

 

[327]

I think you should see a psychiatrist. What you are describing are called ideas of reference and can be symptoms of a psychotic disorder

So lol lol your saying just because I see the number 327 once or twice a day I'm crazy lol. So even when my sister told me she sees that number too, she must be crazy too. I have another friend that see the number a lot too...so we are just a bunch of crazies lol