2024 Paris Olympics: A Demonic Introduction to the Games

[rjs330]

They'd have to actually do something then, though.

They do, they do more than any other group.

 

[rjs330]

Absolutely everyone needs to calm down. And if Olympic organizers find viewership is way down I hope they don't go home and kick their dogs. Not good for them to take out their frustrations on innocent parties. Maybe some good can come out of this though. Maybe future hosts cities will take from this and learn and ask do they really want high viewership of the Games? If not they can continue on. If they do well then they have come to see what they better not do.

Yeah sure. Just calmly go to your TV and click on national sports events and forget about the Olympics this year. Nice to honor your athletes when they come home though. They worked hard to get their medals.

Yeah, I'm not watching. I hope many don't. They just slapped a lot of people in the face and made a mockery of the savior.

 

[rjs330]

I don't think there has been an excuse offered by Thomas Jolly - the opposite in fact. Jolly has stated in clear terms that the offending tableau was a deliberate choice to be inclusive. He said that France is a free country. He certainly won't be silenced by a bit of discomfort.

I am pretty certain that he has already offended some Christians - and he is certainly not apologetic about it.

We have heard from from some Christians who were offended, but the must many who weren't.

If he wanted inclusion he wouldn't have mocked the savior. I don't believe him at all. He's trying to cover up for his blasphemy.

 

[Bobber]

Yeah, I'm not watching. I hope many don't. They just slapped a lot of people in the face and made a mockery of the savior.

Yeah they made a decision they were just going to shock people and if people didn't like it....TOUGH. I guess future organizers will have to decide. Do you want to alienate and turn off high view ship of the Games. I suppose they'll decide yeah or nay in regard to that. I won't be watching and haven't. If it doesn't hurt them by my not watching (as some would say) I don't even care. National sports is good enough for me.

 

[Whyayeman]

If he wanted inclusion he wouldn't have mocked the savior. I don't believe him at all. He's trying to cover up for his blasphemy.

Not at all. Here is what he said, quoted by me in #197:

We wanted to include everyone, as simple as that. In France, we have freedom of creation, artistic freedom. We are lucky in France to live in a free country. I didn't have any specific messages that I wanted to deliver. In France, we are a republic, we have the right to love whom we want, we have the right not to be worshippers, we have a lot of rights in France, and this is what I wanted to convey. [Wikipedia]​

There's no back-tracking there.

 

[Bobber]

I think Christians severely over estimate how much influence they have.

Perhaps. Maybe only God knows to what effect it had or will have but I won't take their word for it that it had NO effect. I think that would be being in denial.

I deeply doubt the number of viewers will fall because some people don’t understand Greek mythology and the Olympics.

And others would say that's just trying to make a detour around the obvious. That they did want to make this seem like the Last Supper. Even if they didn't pure failing grade not having insight to know how the symbolism would be taken. That would be called having wisdom.

Celebrate the athletes, I think it’s great.

I think it's good to honor them if one comes home with a medal. They worked so hard to be the best at their sport and to have a dream of being the best....that's great. It's a motivation for all to be excellent at what you do.

 

[Bobber]

Not at all. Here is what he said, quoted by me in #197:

We wanted to include everyone, as simple as that. In France, we have freedom​

Well they may be a free country but are they a wise country? (And I don't mean the country as a whole but the organizers of this event) You may be free to walk up to somebody and say I think that suit and tie you're wearing is a joke. Do you exercise such freedom though? No not really. You consider the sensitivities of others. People have sensitivities ABOUT yes religious icon things like the image picture of the Last Supper. Respecting such would have been humane. I'd say it was barbaric that they didn't.

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[truthpls]

Honestly, there is no defense needed. You are free to experience being offended. The artists are free to express themselves as they choose.

It is more like a giant series of hoses sprayed sewage on the crowds and told them it was art

 

[truthpls]

I think Christians severely over estimate how much influence they have.

Actually they severely underestimate it. God hears their prayers and answers. God takes care of them and is coming to rescue them and take over the world one day and allow them to help rule here forever. He came down Himself to die a horrible death for us. Their destiny here is total rule and control and there will be no one else on the planet BUT believers.
Also nations rise and fall according to how they treat Him and us. Period.

 

[Belk]

I wonder if this will rise to the level of "The War on Christmas!!!"? Maybe Christians can trot this out every four years as a grievance because the world no longer kowtows to keep from offending their delicate sensibilities?

 

[Pommer]

There were more people in the tableau than were in TLS painting, by a lot. Dionysius was featured. The Olympics have a connection to Greek mythology. Dionysius is the father of the Goddess of the Seine. The person who designed it has said his inspiration was a painting that, for all I know, is in Paris. TLS is art, not a religious document or a key element in Christianity. Getting upset it is being mocked is like being big mad that people picked on that dumb Mel Gibson movie.

Seriously, people need to calm down. It’s really not always about them. The world? It’s not out to get them. And if it is and it chooses staging a secular painting of a religious event at the Olympics as its “shots fired” action, seriously, you’re doing ok.

Here’s the thing: anger is addictive, any chance to “get a fix” is “good enough” for an anger junkie.

The key to to recognize what is happening and derive as much mirth from the “controversy” as possible before quietly walking away from it, altogether.

 

[Pommer]

Certainly the Last Supper is more world-famous and meme-able, and it's hard for me to believe the Olympic organizer could be unaware of the potential for both interpretations.

Aye, people certianly should have the freedom to be angry over something that has nothing to do with their own faith if they feel as if the thing does have something to do with their faith, in an offshoot, tangential way!!!!1!

The rests of us are free to laugh that their reaction.

 

[Pommer]

This inclusivity stuff has gone too far.

John 3:16, dude

 

[Pommer]

I wonder if this will rise to the level of "The War on Christmas!!!"? Maybe Christians can trot this out every four years as a grievance because the world no longer kowtows to keep from offending their delicate sensibilities?

Maybe Utah/Salt Lake City will nix the 2034 Winter Olympics, in protest?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

John 3:16, dude

... contexts, dude. Contexts.

 

[Pommer]

It is more like a giant series of hoses sprayed sewage on the crowds and told them it was art

This does actually sound like an art “installation”, well done!

 

[Pommer]

... contexts, dude. Contexts.

God is willing for all to be saved but we get to choose who that is?
i don’t think so.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

God is willing for all to be saved but we get to choose who that is?
i don’t think so.

What form of "inclusivity" do you think John 3:16 delineates for the entire World?

 

[Pommer]

What form of "inclusivity" do you think John 3:16 delineates for the entire World?

This is as far as I’m willing to travel into this particular rabbit hole, fair thee well

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Perhaps. Maybe only God knows to what effect it had or will have but I won't take their word for it that it had NO effect. I think that would be being in denial.

Considering it’s a worldwide event, it’s doubt they will miss a few hardline Christians in the US.

And others would say that's just trying to make a detour around the obvious. That they did want to make this seem like the Last Supper. Even if they didn't pure failing grade not having insight to know how the symbolism would be taken. That would be called having wisdom.

It would be called “Christians are not the center of the universe.”

I think it's good to honor them if one comes home with a medal. They worked so hard to be the best at their sport and to have a dream of being the best....that's great. It's a motivation for all to be excellent at what you do.

I don’t care if they come home with a medal. If they went, if they almost went, good for them.