2024 Paris Olympics: A Demonic Introduction to the Games

[Ana the Ist]

Leonardo culturally appropriated the Greek motif into his Last Supper fresco, blame him.

People tend to like Leonardo's Last Supper.

What exactly would we be blaming him for?

 

[comana]

Where precisely does Thomas Jolly say that it wasn't? The article claims he did, but then the quote it offers is:

"You will never find in my work a desire to denigrate anyone or anything," Jolly told broadcaster BFMTV.

I see no denial there that it was inspired by The Last Supper. Rather, it just says he wasn't trying to denigrate anyone or anything. That is a different statement. As I stated earlier, maybe there is such a statement of denial of inspiration, but no one ever points to it even in defense. All the actual quotes given by him don't say any such thing.

Olympics opening ceremony tableau sparks controversy among Christian community

The opening ceremony’s artistic director, Thomas Jolly, confirmed that Leonardo da Vinci’s “The Last Supper” was not his inspiration for the performance.

www.today.com

Appearing on French news channel BFM-TV Sunday, Jolly confirmed “The Last Supper” was “not my inspiration.”

 

[JSRG]

According to classical mythology, the wedding of Thetis and Peleus was celebrated on Mount Pelion, outside the cave of Chiron, and attended by the deities: there they celebrated the marriage with feasting. Apollo played the lyre and the Muses sang.

How does that article do anything to back up your claim "that such a depiction of The Feast of the Gods, predates Christianity by about 800 years"? I don't see it. What image from around 800 BC is being referred to? The oldest images I see there are from around 500 BC but they aren't anything even remotely similar to the Olympics ceremony.

 

[AlexB23]

Olympics opening ceremony tableau sparks controversy among Christian community

The opening ceremony’s artistic director, Thomas Jolly, confirmed that Leonardo da Vinci’s “The Last Supper” was not his inspiration for the performance.

www.today.com

Appearing on French news channel BFM-TV Sunday, Jolly confirmed “The Last Supper” was “not my inspiration.”

Still, the half naked drag people should not be shown on TV. Is it okay for people to whip out their plantains on TV? No, it is not okay. It was not okay in the 2000s, and should not be okay in 2024.

 

[Ana the Ist]

The “apology”:
“Clearly there was never an intention to show disrespect to any religious group. (The opening ceremony) tried to celebrate community tolerance," Paris 2024 spokesperson Anne Descamps told a press conference.
"We believe this ambition was achieved. If people have taken any offence we are really sorry."

Thomas Jolly, the artistic director behind the flamboyant opening ceremony, said the scene had not been inspired by "The Last Supper" and depicted a pagan feast linked to the gods of Olympus.


The tableau wasn’t modeled after the Last Supper motif; the “apology” was more along the lines of
”if the ignorant wish to be offended, they will be, and we’re sorry that they’re ignorant”.

You don't really believe that do you?


He took a lot of heat so it looks like back paddling.

The central figure even has a halo.

Edit- if you didn't mean to do queers last supper and everything thinks you did queers last supper, you're basically a failure as an artist.

 

[truthpls]

A lot of Christians really, really want to be offended. I mean, if Christianity isn't an excuse for being angry at someone else, what's the point? The fact that the artist behind the presentation says that it wan't inspired by "The Last Supper", and the fact that there's a relevant artistic tradition around Dionysus (see

for details) is irrelevant.

Did you read sfs's first sentence?



Why are you interpreting this event as "to deceive Christians"? It's not all about you, yunno.

Christians want Jesus respected. Not a bunch of perverted demoniacs blaspheming openly and involving children.

 

[truthpls]

Still, the half naked drag people should not be shown on TV. Is it okay for people to whip out their plantains on TV? No, it is not okay. It was not okay in the 2000s, and should not be okay in 2024.

Besides that, what has that got to do with sports? If they say it was just added art, why not add some beautiful or actual art?

 

[comana]

Still, the half naked drag people should not be shown on TV. Is it okay for people to whip out their plantains on TV? No, it is not okay. It was not okay in the 2000s, and should not be okay in 2024.

Well he was wear a thong. I mean the male Olympic divers are wearing about the same.

 

[AlexB23]

Well he was wear a thong. I mean the male Olympic divers are wearing about the same.

True, but at least the divers were doing a productive sport, unlike the Smurf dude who was just trying to show his banana under the fabric.

 

[AlexB23]

Besides that, what has that got to do with sports? If they say it was just added art, why not add some beautiful or actual art?

Agreed. Drag has nothing to do with sports, unless we talk about motorsports on a 1/4 mile race (402 meter drag race), but that is a different type of drag. The 2024 Olympics could have used real art, or had a sports-themed reenactment of Le Miserable with non-woke, fully clothed individuals.

 

[JSRG]

Olympics opening ceremony tableau sparks controversy among Christian community

The opening ceremony’s artistic director, Thomas Jolly, confirmed that Leonardo da Vinci’s “The Last Supper” was not his inspiration for the performance.

www.today.com

Appearing on French news channel BFM-TV Sunday, Jolly confirmed “The Last Supper” was “not my inspiration.”

Ah, good! Thanks for that. It looks like this was only recently given, which is why I hadn't seen it before.

However, as if to make things even more confusing, apparently the producers indicated The Last Supper was in mind:

Paris Olympics Producers Say 'The Last Supper' Inspired That Opening Ceremony Scene: 'Many Have Done It Before'

A controversial scene apparently featuring The Last Supper from the Paris Olympics Opening Ceremony continued to stir controversy Sunday.

www.thewrap.com

Here's the opening with the most important information (more is given in the article):

A Paris Olympics Opening Ceremony scene reminiscent of Leonardo da Vinci’s “The Last Supper” continued to stir controversy Sunday as Paris 2024 producers and the ceremony’s designer Thomas Jolly released separate, apparently opposing statements on where it drew its inspiration.

The scene in question featured a line of drag performers posing shoulder-to-shoulder on a Parisian bridge before turning the bridge into a fashion-forward catwalk. Later, those same queens celebrated over a meal where the dish was revealed to be a nearly nude man painted blue.

Many, including Jolly and the official Olympics Games X account, said that the scene is an “interpretation of the Greek God Dionysus” that “makes us aware of the absurdity of violence between human beings.”

Others, including a statement from Paris 2024 producers obtained by TheWrap Sunday, said that it was in fact inspired by Da Vinci’s famous painting — a skewing of the religious imagery that has been slammed by the Christian right as a mockery of Jesus Christ.

“For the ‘Festivities’ segment, Thomas Jolly took inspiration from Leonardo da Vinci’s famous painting to create the setting,” producers said in the statement. “Clearly, there was never an intention to show disrespect towards any religious group or belief … [Jolly] is not the first artist to make a reference to what is a world-famous work of art. From Andy Warhol to ‘The Simpsons,’ many have done it before him.”

So it seems we're getting some contradictory information here as to inspiration.

 

[comana]

Agreed. Drag has nothing to do with sports, unless we talk about motorsports on a 1/4 mile race (402 meter drag race), but that is a different type of drag. The 2024 Olympics could have used real art, or had a sports-themed reenactment of Le Miserable with non-woke, fully clothed individuals.

Opening ceremonies are a show case for the host country. This may have little to do with the Olympics and more the culture and traditions of the host country. The French are known to be very open and liberal with sexuality. They are not shy of nudity.

 

[AlexB23]

Opening ceremonies are a show case for the host country. This may have little to do with the Olympics and more the culture and traditions of the host country. The French are known to be very open and liberal with sexuality. They are not shy of nudity.

True, and that is not good for children in the US or any other country to be viewing.

 

[comana]

Ah, good! Thanks for that. It looks like this was only recently given, which is why I hadn't seen it before.

However, as if to make things even more confusing, apparently the producers indicated The Last Supper was in mind:

Paris Olympics Producers Say 'The Last Supper' Inspired That Opening Ceremony Scene: 'Many Have Done It Before'

A controversial scene apparently featuring The Last Supper from the Paris Olympics Opening Ceremony continued to stir controversy Sunday.

www.thewrap.com

Here's the opening with the most important information (more is given in the article):

A Paris Olympics Opening Ceremony scene reminiscent of Leonardo da Vinci’s “The Last Supper” continued to stir controversy Sunday as Paris 2024 producers and the ceremony’s designer Thomas Jolly released separate, apparently opposing statements on where it drew its inspiration.

The scene in question featured a line of drag performers posing shoulder-to-shoulder on a Parisian bridge before turning the bridge into a fashion-forward catwalk. Later, those same queens celebrated over a meal where the dish was revealed to be a nearly nude man painted blue.

Many, including Jolly and the official Olympics Games X account, said that the scene is an “interpretation of the Greek God Dionysus” that “makes us aware of the absurdity of violence between human beings.”

Others, including a statement from Paris 2024 producers obtained by TheWrap Sunday, said that it was in fact inspired by Da Vinci’s famous painting — a skewing of the religious imagery that has been slammed by the Christian right as a mockery of Jesus Christ.

“For the ‘Festivities’ segment, Thomas Jolly took inspiration from Leonardo da Vinci’s famous painting to create the setting,” producers said in the statement. “Clearly, there was never an intention to show disrespect towards any religious group or belief … [Jolly] is not the first artist to make a reference to what is a world-famous work of art. From Andy Warhol to ‘The Simpsons,’ many have done it before him.”

So it seems we're getting some contradictory information here as to inspiration.

I agree it is confusing. I have seen sources claiming the inspiration both ways. Also have seen sources saying Da Vinci‘s inspiration was Dionysius. I think that ultimately there is an overreaction to art that has resulted in Christians claiming this is a direct assault against them.

 

[comana]

True, and that is not good for children in the US or any other country to be viewing.

Honestly, it was a small part of the whole and most children wouldn’t really “get “ it anyway.

 

[AlexB23]

Honestly, it was a small part of the whole and most children wouldn’t really “get “ it anyway.

True, but some children might stumble. Even if we cause 0.1% of people to stumble, it is still wrong, my friend.

 

[Arcangl86]

Honestly, I would expect Christians to be more concerned with the extended skit showing the set up to a menigie a trios.

 

[AlexB23]

Honestly, I would expect Christians to be more concerned with the extended skit showing the set up to a menigie a trios.

I am upset with all of it, including that skit. Glad I did not see it.

 

[truthpls]

Agreed. Drag has nothing to do with sports, unless we talk about motorsports on a 1/4 mile race (402 meter drag race), but that is a different type of drag. The 2024 Olympics could have used real art, or had a sports-themed reenactment of Le Miserable with non-woke, fully clothed individuals.

Apparently there were other dark symbolisms as well. I can hardly imagine what the world will be like when Jesus rescues us from here. One of the hallmarks of that time on earth and the leadership is blasphemy against the God of heaven. It is like they can't wait and are peeking out from hell already- gleefully chomping at the bit

 

[AlexB23]

Apparently there were other dark symbolisms as well. I can hardly imagine what the world will be like when Jesus rescues us from here. One of the hallmarks of that time on earth and the leadership is blasphemy against the God of heaven. It is like they can't wait and are peeking out from hell already

This stuff is pretty dark. There was also a mechanical pale horse that reminds me of the Horseman of the Apocalypse (Revelation 6:8).

Pale Horse at Olympic Ceremony:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/pale-horse-of-death-netizens-call-metal-horse-at-paris-opening-ceremony-ominous-101722066832084.html