2012, what do u think?

[dangerousdave]

Im a catholic but i'm real worrried about this 2012 stuff that everyone keeps talking about.

Im just going to keep praying about it, but have to admit i'm scared.

 

[Memento Mori]

It's all hogwash. Nothing to worry about. The Mayan calendar doesn't predict anything. It just ends because they stopped adding to it (right around the collapse of their civilization).

Even if it did, it wouldn't mean anything because the Mayans were not God's appointed oracles.

 

[KeenanParkerII]

Hey DangerousDave.

I am more afraid of the masses of scared people all over the globe convinced of imminent doom..

All the same, there is some very interesting solar activity occurring within that time period. Nasa doesn't include the report, but these storms have a nasty habit of knocking out industrial transformers. Most cities employ a very limited number of replacement teams, so there are some interesting theories of that nature swirling around.

My best reccomendation would be to buy two cigars.. One for the night before, and another if you're still around the next day.

Enjoy the fireworks.

 

[dangerousdave]

Polar shift is scary

 

[Br. Xavier]

Polar shift is scary

If I can remember what I read correctly, the whole idea behind the polar shift is the aligning of the planets throwing off gravity or something along those lines. Well that idea's a fallacy simply because the aligning will be a purely visual occurrence, meaning, if you were to leave Earth and view it, they wouldn't actually be aligned. The poles are safe.

 

[KeenanParkerII]

Hey, Nasa's report is actually based on solar activity: torrents of supercharged plasma being flung into space and projecting radiation towards Earth. You know.. the same old stuff.

 

[isabella1]

I don't give it any thought.

 

[Virgil the Roman]

It's only mass chaos and all the computers shuttingdown..........I think there calling it "Y2K"..............oops, been there done that.

 

[Br. Xavier]

It's only mass chaos and all the computers shuttingdown..........I think there calling it "Y2K"..............oops, been there done that.

LOL!

There are so many end-of-the-world predictions it's not even worth putting thought into. Just be ready with Our Lord as He tells us to be.

 

[stone]

Im a catholic but i'm real worrried about this 2012 stuff that everyone keeps talking about.

Im just going to keep praying about it, but have to admit i'm scared.

The nostradomus prophesies are very interesting, in that many have come to pass and that there is one remaining. His latest, recent findings of the image of the tree, i find interesting as well. I say its a nuclear blast, in that image, rather than a tree. His messages are encrypted right?

The Mayans were extremely satanic. Human sacrifices, worshipped a serpent God, as well as many of the previous and succeeding tribes of Old Mexico and South America. I'd say the mayans were well liked among the seed of satan, enough so that technologies were shared to them.

I think Y2k is much different in that it was all cooked up by modern technology and it actually did have effects on business, but nothing that couldn't be corrected with a patch or replaceing hardware. The prophecies of 2012 are totally different, in that it's a prophecy, granted not from a man of God, but it is written that there are prophets that are not of God. Nostradomus passes the test of prophet, but of course, as i said, he's not of God, at least, not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The bible is filled with prophecies that are bad news. I think it's only the false prophets that painted pictures of flowers and teddy bears. They didn't last long.

The prophesies that foretell the coming of Jesus, rather his 2nd coming, do idicate that much disaster will come 1st.

If something horrible happens to the earth, i don't think it's going to be a shift of the earth's gravity or mass movements of the earth from planetary alignments, but rather, if something occur's, it will be from man.

Of course this is pure speculation.

 

[English Augustine]

Jesus is going to come like a thief in the night. If it's predicted beforehand; he's not coming!

 

[oldfashionedbelle]

I really don't think about it much. I remember when everyone freaked out about Y2K also and nothing happened. When the end really does come it will be a joyous occasion. Jesus will be returning and if he wants to take me with him I would never complain or question.

 

[Dark_Lite]

Nostradamus' prophecies are so vague that they all manage to be filled in one way or another.

2012 will pass like any other year. It's the next Y2K scare.

 

[isabella1]

IF anything happens in the world by the hand of God, I am quite sure he will put me exactly where he wants me to be, and will give me what I need to survive, or help others. It may not be where I desire, or the tools I want, but non the less, it will be where I am suppose to be. So preparing like people do by stock piling and other things, is not for me.

People keep forgetting where the preparedness really needs to be focused on is ones spiritual state. Without that, anything that happening in ones life is impossible to weather.

 

[Gwendolyn]

2012 doesn't mean anything. It is just a shift in the lunar calendar. Instead of being in the Age of Aquarius, or something, we move into the Age of Pisces. It's when the Aquarian age ends. Not the world.

 

[KeenanParkerII]

*sigh*

nononono... There is going to be a solar storm people! The last time we had one this big it there were northern lights in Mexico!

Seeeeee.. NASA.

 

[Irenaeus]

All the 2012 mumbo jumbo is a bunch of nonsense from both an astronomical and a geological standpoint.

First on "pole shifts." We do know that magnetic pole shifts do, and have, happened. However, never in the history of geological strata do we see large amounts of fossils or soot or any kind of information suggesting an extinction level event even though the magnetism in the rocks do change.

Secondly, the highest amount of solar energy ever observed was the Carrington event in the mid 19th century, which produced the Aurora Borealis as far south as Mexico, where one could even read papers by the light, it was said. Sunspot activity was markedly increased and telegraphs had trouble. Of course, with our electronically advanced world, something of a similar scale could be debilitating.

In this same vein, NASA is giving conflicting reports on what the next solar cycle could produce. Some say stronger, some say weaker. I think the recent estimates are a strong solar maximum between 2012-2013. However, if you are expecting something on the lines of a solar discharge that would wipe out all life on earth or something, that is so remotely unlikely - if it had happened before, life would surely not had developed and we wouldn't be here.

Thirdly, this whole idea of the winter solstice of 2012 date being one of cataclysm dates in reality to a book in the mid 1960s. This was never even thought of until men like crypto (pseudo, in my opinion) archaelogists (journalists) like Graham Hancock published books like Fingerprints of the Gods and The Sign and the Seal (the former I read) which equate the return of Queztacoatl with 2012, associating it as well with the astronomical "alignments" of the Pyramids in Egypt and Mesoamerica, and mythological sources. Although it was a very, very intriguing look at Egyptian and Mesoamerican mythologies, the fact is that they are just that, mythologies. Furthermore, they are heavily influenced by astrology, not astronomy.

That being said I do believe primitive mythologies do contain truth. For instance, virtually every great world civilization that we know of has some sort of primordial flood myth. Many mythological eschatologies point to the world ending by fire. However, even the Mayan calendar, which is cyclical, does not state that the end of the Bak'a'tun count ends the world. It simply ends an age or an era. New Age folks in the late 20th century liked to associate this date then with the idea of the imminent "Age of Aquarius" (we are currently reckoned in the age of Pisces) they link with the procession of equinoxes or "Platonic year", or roughly every 23,000 years, in a desperate bid for astronomical/scientific legitimacy.

A group of astronomers on the "Bad Astronomy Forums", amateur and not, have a rather good grasp of the astronomical fallacies present in the 2012 astrological hype, such as the sun passing through "Galactic Center" or other such nonsense. It is nonsense. This same sort of paranoia about the alignment of stars, planets and even galaxies even caused a slight panic among some on May 5, 1999 when seven planets aligned in the constellation Taurus. It was such a concern that even the 80's show Millenium featured the day passing with earthquakes and various tumults due to "gravitational pull"; again, another vain bid for scientific legitimacy.

As far as you are able, disregard and openly mock the belief in 2012 cataclysm. Apocalypses make money and the more vivid and scientific sounding the explanations, especially when they involve arcane and illegitimate anthropology, the more great the public paranoia. The only apocalypse that will ever happen in 2012 is perhaps mass suicide preceding the event by fanatics who have driven to despair because of History Channel documents that are rich in hype, but poor in historical criticism.

So don't worry. Keep preparing for Christmas around that time of year, and if canned goods go up because of high demand, there will always be more fresh turkey sold at the corner store.

 

[judechild]

Ah, what the heck, let's have an end-of-the-world party anyway; just for kicks and giggles! THEN we can all laugh about how the world didn't end!

 

[KeenanParkerII]

Ah, what the heck, let's have an end-of-the-world party anyway; just for kicks and giggles! THEN we can all laugh about how the world didn't end!

*Puts hand up* I'm in.

However, if you are expecting something on the lines of a solar discharge that would wipe out all life on earth or something, that is so remotely unlikely

I was thinking more along the lines of enjoying the pretty colours.

 

[Protoevangel]

2009, 2012, 3099... It doesn't really matter. Are you ready for His return today? I don't know when the end of the world is coming, I only pray that I find true repentance before MY end comes.

He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.” Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!
- Revelation 22:20
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