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John Wesley may take issue with that. He would ask: Just what sin is God not able to deliver people from?
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John Wesley may take issue with that. He would ask: Just what sin is God not able to deliver people from?The sinless person does not exist.
I can understand that, the church leaves a lot to be desired sometimes. Someone explained to me one day that we need the Holy Spirit of God to help us understand the Bible. We can not trust in man for our understanding. God has the answers and the solutions. They are in the Bible but we will not be able to find them unless God helps us and give us wisdom, knowledge and understanding. I think he gives understanding to atheists also but they do not want to honor Him for that.Funny, exactly the opposite for me. I was raised in a conservative baptist home, and eventually I found that my questions could not be answered by the Bible, and it makes far more sense as a piece of fiction from superstitious, primitive man.
John Wesley may take issue with that. He would ask: Just what sin is God not able to deliver people from?
That's because something physical happened and they didn't need feelings.You will find a whole host of opinions amongst historians about the causes of the First World War, but they would deny to a man that they hold the opinions they do based upon nothing but feelings.
Of course you were, you found your God all by yourself, I have never heard a believer say anything different.For your information, I was brought up in a family which was wholly disinterested in religion.
Of course you were.I was raised to be a Secular Humanist.
Then why did you turned to a book of myths that posed more questions than answers.Christianity was something I found because I needed solutions and answers.
That's if you don't mind the answer to every question being 'Goddidit', All I can say is you are very easily pleased.I found that the Bible and God has an answer for every question and a solution for every problem.
That's because something physical happened and they didn't need feelings
Of course you were, you found your God all by yourself, I have never heard a believer say anything different.
Not at all, it just seems strange how not one Christian here has ever grown up in a family where they were never given the option of being anything other than a Christian, every one came to god on their own.So you think you know my life history better than I do? Well, I am sorry if the facts of the case upset your fixed ideas.
How can you and I look at the same book and come to totally different conclusions?Then why did you turned to a book of myths that posed more questions than answers.
I am talking about serious solutions for serious problems. Corrie Tan Boom comes to mind because she was a Holocaust survivor and lost all of her family to the Holocaust. One day she ran into one of the cruelest guards in the camp she was in. He walked up to her and said: I know that God forgives me, but do you forgive me. These are the sort of problems and these are the sort of solutions I am talking about. We all have issues in life and I know that whatever I have to deal with God is going to show me the way. He does not do things my way. I did not invent God, I did not create God and I do not have the solution and the answers for the issues that people encounter in life: But God does. One thing is for sure, man does not have solutions for the problems and serious issues that people have to deal with.That's if you don't mind the answer to every question being 'Goddidit', All I can say is you are very easily pleased.
John Wesley believed that the Blood of Jesus could cleanse us from all our sin. He began a Holiness movement that is still going today.Pelagian
It worked because it gave gullible and desperate people the hope of a better life to come, when death was everywhere and people had ten children and only two or three survived they would cling to anything that might make their lives a little easier to bear, today people believe it because they are too lazy to look for the truth, Goddidit is their answer to every question, not that they do much questioning.John Wesley believed that the Blood of Jesus could cleanse us from all our sin. He began a Holiness movement that is still going today.
Religious indoctrination done properly never goes away no matter where life takes one.Charles H Townes, John D Barrow, Francisco Ayala and William Phillips. Being too lazy to look for the truth got two of them Nobel Prizes.
Religious indoctrination done properly never goes away no matter where life takes one.
Those people could achieve wonderful things but did not have either the power or the inclination to look at why they believed as they did, they just believed because it was either too hard or too painful to look deeper and find out the truth.
Religious indoctrination done properly never goes away no matter where life takes one.
Those people could achieve wonderful things but did not have either the power or the inclination to look at why they believed as they did, they just believed because it was either too hard or too painful to look deeper and find out the truth, if they were not indoctrinated then they had problems we are not privy to, only they would know why they needed to turn to religion.
Anyone espousing to hold irrational beliefs obviously does not think rationally about their beliefs, like Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and his belief in fairies.How do you know what they believed or how they examined their beliefs?
Not at all, no two people think alike but thinking irrationally is surely not to be considered normal, it's why we treat people for Schizophrenia, self harm and suicidal tendencies, seeing a person talking to themself might give you cause for concern but when you find out they are praying you immediately give them a free pass, if you gave it some thought you wouldn't because talking to an imaginary friend is not the kind of thing everyday people {outside of America and Arab countries} do, it's OK for children to do it but not adults.You really do have problems with the idea that some people think differently to you, don't you?
Anyone espousing to hold irrational beliefs obviously does not think rationally about their beliefs
Not at all, no two people think alike but thinking irrationally is surely not to be considered normal, it's why we treat people for Schizophrenia, self harm and suicidal tendencies, seeing a person talking to themself might give you cause for concern but when you find out they are praying you immediately give them a free pass, if you gave it some thought you wouldn't because talking to an imaginary friend is not the kind of thing everyday people {outside of America and Arab countries} do, it's OK for children to do it but not adults.
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