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20 arguments for the existence of God

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The sacrifices were given to the high priest. Yeshua is our high priest today, we are the temple, and he is the sin sacrifice.
 
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Well to declare that you would have to show how I'm being inconsistent.

If skepticism was absolutely wrong, you wouldn't say that sometimes skepticism is okay, therefore you appear to have contradicted yourself
 
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Thats where an Ancient Near East understanding comes into play .

Actually cross is never mentioned in the scriptures. Its an execution stake, and they were crucified on trees. Yeshua was hung on a tree. That is cross referenced with the Torah too.

The scriptures never mention the crucifixion?

He wasn't "hung on a tree". He was crucified. Which literally means "Fixed to a cross".
 
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If skepticism was absolutely wrong, you wouldn't say that sometimes skepticism is okay, therefore you appear to have contradicted yourself

It depends on how you apply it. I'm not talking about the position of skepticism. I'm talking about being skeptical of certain things that we can demonstrate are not true.
 
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The sacrifices were given to the high priest. Yeshua is our high priest today, we are the temple, and he is the sin sacrifice.

In other words, God changes the rules whenever it feels like we've gotten too set in our ways? This is another reason I'd have little reason to believe in anything but a very distant creator, since your creator seems overinvolved and smothering of any creativity that doesn't glorify it.Not to mention the obvious ego issues and general difficulties of anthropomorphizing concepts like justice and goodness and perfection
 
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Nope, Leviticus 17:11 still applies.

How is that an ego issue? Being nailed to an execution stake, are you serious? You're applying a human standard to God's standard of righteousness.
 
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Nope, Leviticus 17:11 still applies.

How is that an ego issue? Being nailed to an execution stake, are you serious? You're applying a human standard to God's standard of righteousness.

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

In short, blood sacrifice is still condoned by God in the 21st century?
 
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Yup, because of Yeshua's sacrifice. It is the renewed covenant between God and mankind.
 
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That doesn't contradict the verse in question.

It contradicts in part, since God no longer wants people to sacrifice animals,but was fine sacrificing its own son for one final sacrifice, going from animal to human barbarism.
 
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