20 arguments for the existence of God

hamashiachagape · Sep 4, 2010

A professor one time talked to Ravi Zecharias. He stated that in the East, they utilized an "and/both" philosophy. What was hilarious was Ravi Zecharias is from India. This professor went on and on trying to teach him about the very culture he was from.

Ravi waited for him to finish and declared "so you are stating that I either use the and/both logic, or nothing at all."

There was a pindrop silence, for obvious reasons.

KIYX · Sep 4, 2010

hamashiachagape said:
Ravi is an authority on the Philosophical nature of Mysticism (your position), and has spent time with the leading scholars of the Atheistic movement too.

I'm sorry but again you have zero idea of the meaning of the terms you are using.

And when it comes to his "authority" you are just flat out making things up.

Zacharias was born in Madras, India. He immigrated with his family to Canada in 1966, earning his undergraduate degree from Ontario Bible College in 1972 (now Tyndale University College & Seminary) and his M. Div. from Trinity International University.

KIYX · Sep 4, 2010

hamashiachagape said:
You can assert it, but it does not make it true. One can not successfully refute God. In order to do so, as I stated before, you would have to have definitionally the same amount of knowledge as God. No human can do this.

This IS fun!

Your argument works for every single god man has ever thought up.

hamashiachagape · Sep 4, 2010

KIYX said:
This IS fun!

Your argument works for every single god man has ever thought up.

Okay. So we evaluate what is true from there.

KIYX · Sep 4, 2010

hamashiachagape said:
Atheism has no more right to attempt to refute my understanding of Theism as it does to attempt to refute Pantheism.

Hahah.

Well fortunately atheism isn't a person who can do those things. Only people can do those things.

KIYX · Sep 4, 2010

hamashiachagape said:
It doesn't matter if I care about it. God still exists.

hamashiachagape said:
You can assert it, but it does not make it true.

hamashiachagape · Sep 4, 2010

KIYX said:
I'm sorry but again you have zero idea of the meaning of the terms you are using.

And when it comes to his "authority" you are just flat out making things up.

I'd actually love to see you dialogue with Ravi Zecharias, would be entertaining.

KIYX · Sep 4, 2010

hamashiachagape said:
Not really. God cares about us.

hamashiachagape said:
You can assert it, but it does not make it true.

You keep making claims about something you have refused to prove exists. It's funny.

hamashiachagape · Sep 4, 2010

KIYX said:

Okay. I don't think you're following.

KIYX · Sep 4, 2010

hamashiachagape said:
As Rene Descartes points out "I think therefore I am." You can't deny yourself. God created you. To be a certain way.

hamashiachagape said:
You can assert it, but it does not make it true.

hamashiachagape · Sep 4, 2010

KIYX said:
You keep making claims about something you have refused to prove exists. It's funny.

With the refutation of Atheism, it becomes unnecessary.

hamashiachagape · Sep 4, 2010

KIYX said:
Hahah.

Well fortunately atheism isn't a person who can do those things. Only people can do those things.

Really? Prove that God, an all powerful being, can not do what a human can do.

Man picks up a chair and its not a violation of gravity. So how can God's doing so violate the law of gravity?

KIYX · Sep 4, 2010

hamashiachagape said:
Agnosticism is self refuting.

hamashiachagape said:
You can assert it, but it does not make it true.

I'm sorry were not going to take your claims on faith, you have to actually explain yourself.

hamashiachagape · Sep 4, 2010

KIYX said:

Irrelevant to the discussion against God's existence.

hamashiachagape · Sep 4, 2010

KIYX said:
I'm sorry were not going to take your claims on faith, you have to actually explain yourself.

I already refute Agnosticism. You are not following the arguments.

KIYX · Sep 4, 2010

hamashiachagape said:
There are other problems. Bobby Henderson declares that the FSM can be everywhere and nowhere. Obviously thats self refuting.

Also the FSM is in a state of flux, change, something that God can not be.

Point to FSM.

hamashiachagape · Sep 4, 2010

KIYX said:
Point to FSM.

If the FSM exists, he is not God.

hamashiachagape · Sep 4, 2010

More kicking and screaming I see.

KIYX · Sep 4, 2010

hamashiachagape said:
Atheism originated out of Philosophy, which is my point.

If it was your point then it was extremely ill expressed.

hamashiachagape said:
You simply have declared a more mythicistic understanding of what it is.

Please don't lie about what I've stated.

I've done no such thing.

hamashiachagape · Sep 4, 2010

KIYX said:
If it was your point then it was extremely ill expressed.

Please don't lie about what I've stated.

I've done no such thing.

Yada yada yada.

Find the origins of what you believe.

Mythicism is a Philosophical position. I'm not declaring that you're lying. I'm stating Atheists are borrowing from Mysticism, a mistake that Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, the leaders of your movement, make.

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