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but they still used design. right?The researchers created the synthetic by cell modeling the chemical reactions of evolved cells. If I remember correctly they first modeled the chemical reactions needed for a minimal cell then the reactions needed for reproduction. Put more simply, they duplicated natural processes in a lab.
I don't think an avalanche is a robot, but by your definition it is.what do you think?
so what is your definition?
Wrong. That is not "according to evolution." It is according to some fantasy version of evolution which you have made up. Wrong. That is not how a conclusion about design is reached. Just because you have been gone for a while doesn't mean we have forgotten your previous attempts to misrepresent evolution in order to build a straw man.
according to evolution if we will find a self replicating robot (or a watch) that made from organic components, we need to conclude that such a robot evolved by a natural process. this is because it has a self replicating system and made from organic components, so its basically like any other walking creature. but we know that even such a robot\ watch is evidence for design. therefore nature need design too.
we also find these gears in nature, and we know that gears are the product of design:
https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/...the-first-time
It would be awesome if your holy spirit would whisper in your ear that you really should listen when others tell you that your versions of evolution are false.Xianghua, they told me I had a fantasy "Evolution" too! I don't think they know how far from the truth you are - because they don't know how far they are from Evolution...
I understand the point you are making, it makes sense to me. When they say "you are using a straw man" just remember that a strawman isn't wrong, if it increases the overall light in which something is viewed. Strawmen aren't (arbitrarily) wrong.
Remember, in the world we are all deluded by Evolution, only the light of the Holy Spirit can save us. We need to pray that the Holy Spirit will speak to all of us, not just those that believe one particular thing?
On the other hand, two points to consider are:There is simply too much organization, purpose, and intelligence in the biochemical composition of all that is out there to think that all this is accidental. There is design everywhere in creation and the more we zoom into anything out there the more we realize that there is further design in ever smaller and smaller scales... the same when we zoom out we keep finding that there is design on ever larger and larger scales.
No, we don't. YOU do. Funny thing is you can't manage to show anyone else. You can talk about it but when asked to specifically show me you can't. You mumble some words about design and slink away. The appearance of design (again, to YOU) is not design. Can you even define what "design" is?There is simply too much organization, purpose, and intelligence in the biochemical composition of all that is out there to think that all this is accidental. There is design everywhere in creation and the more we zoom into anything out there the more we realize that there is further design in ever smaller and smaller scales... the same when we zoom out we keep finding that there is design on ever larger and larger scales.
There is simply too much organization, purpose, and intelligence in the biochemical composition of all that is out there to think that all this is accidental.
Assertions are cool. But without substance, they are mere unsupported opinions.There is design everywhere in creation and the more we zoom into anything out there the more we realize that there is further design in ever smaller and smaller scales... the same when we zoom out we keep finding that there is design on ever larger and larger scales.
What organic components? Who would make them and use them to build a robot?
Most importantly, why on earth do you still trot out these ridiculous "arguments" ?
Why would I do that?
Still waiting for you to explain how a robot:
ro·bot
noun
would reproduce.
- (especially in science fiction) a machine resembling a human being and able to replicate certain human movements and functions automatically.
"the robot closed the door behind us"
Set up the strawman ("this is accidental") so you can knock it down with a vacuous assertion.There is simply too much organization, purpose, and intelligence in the biochemical composition of all that is out there to think that all this is accidental.
Pfft. Demonstrate non-human design in anything.There is design everywhere in creation and the more we zoom into anything out there the more we realize that there is further design in ever smaller and smaller scales... the same when we zoom out we keep finding that there is design on ever larger and larger scales.
Yes. Strawmen are wrong. There's something else you don't understand.Xianghua, they told me I had a fantasy "Evolution" too! I don't think they know how far from the truth you are - because they don't know how far they are from Evolution...
I understand the point you are making, it makes sense to me. When they say "you are using a straw man" just remember that a strawman isn't wrong, if it increases the overall light in which something is viewed. Strawmen aren't (arbitrarily) wrong.
Remember, in the world we are all deluded by Evolution, only the light of the Holy Spirit can save us. We need to pray that the Holy Spirit will speak to all of us, not just those that believe one particular thing?
It's OK to live in a fantasy world. Enjoy it. Just stop trying to recruit people to join you in yours. If you are lonely there, just abandon it and come back to reality. It's really quite interesting. You might even grow to like it.Xianghua, they told me I had a fantasy "Evolution" too! I don't think they know how far from the truth you are - because they don't know how far they are from Evolution...
I understand the point you are making, it makes sense to me. When they say "you are using a straw man" just remember that a strawman isn't wrong, if it increases the overall light in which something is viewed. Strawmen aren't (arbitrarily) wrong.
Remember, in the world we are all deluded by Evolution, only the light of the Holy Spirit can save us. We need to pray that the Holy Spirit will speak to all of us, not just those that believe one particular thing?
Not playing this game.
its not a game. if you are saying that a penguin isnt a robot then you should tell me why.
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