2 proofs that nature was designed

[xianghua]

Just stop.

so will you conclude design if you will see a robot that is able to reproduce?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

so how you will define a watch?

In general, I'd be inclined to go with a standard dictionary definition, such as, "a portable timepiece designed to be worn (as on the wrist) or carried in the pocket".

 

[Speedwell]

so will you conclude design if you will see a robot that is able to reproduce?

I will conclude design if there is evidence of design. The ability to reproduce is not, in itself, evidence of design.

 

[xianghua]

How about this video, in which a guy sets up a computer program to simulate the evolution of watches? Evolution can produce complexity. This has been pointed out to you many times. Why do you keep using an argument that you know is wrong?

actually it start with a pendulum, which contain about 3 parts.

 

[pitabread]

why?

Serious question: Do you not remember any previous conversations you've had on this forum?

 

[xianghua]

The fact that it is self replicating is not, in and of itself, evidence for design..

i never said it is. im just asking about robot that is able to reproduce and has DNA. do you think such a robot is evidence for design?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

i never said it is. im just asking about robot that is able to reproduce and has DNA. do you think such a robot is evidence for design?

If you could produce such a robot (a mechanical construct) that has DNA (a biological component), then that would be evidence of design.

 

[Ophiolite]

i never said it is. im just asking about robot that is able to reproduce and has DNA. do you think such a robot is evidence for design?

I may have missed it; what is your definition of a robot? All discussions of your "theory" (hypothesis, speculation, brain burp) are pointless without that.

 

[Speedwell]

i never said it is. im just asking about robot that is able to reproduce and has DNA. do you think such a robot is evidence for design?

Not unless it shows evidence of design. A robot, as we have defined it, is a machine that resembles a living creature in being capable of moving independently and performing complex actions. The more it resembles a living creature, the less evidence one would expect there to be for design. If it was possible to construct a robot which was identical to a living creature in every particular, it might not be possible to determine whether it was designed or not. Just as it is not possible to determine whether an actual living creature is designed or not.

 

[Larniavc]

why?

Because it’s a penguin. I would have thought that that rules it out from being a penguin.

Do you mean is a penguin a robotic penguin?

Because it’s not. In the same way way that cars are not magical animal cars.

Say......

 

[Kylie]

actually it start with a pendulum, which contain about 3 parts.

Did you even watch the video?

 

[Kylie]

i never said it is. im just asking about robot that is able to reproduce and has DNA. do you think such a robot is evidence for design?

How many times have you tried this line of argument?

How many times has it utterly failed?

Why do you keep trying it when you know it isn't going to work?

 

[tas8831]

Not really, now that I doubt you can.

That is hilarious. I guess you cannot grasp how absurd his point is, much less articulate it.

 

[tas8831]

so will you conclude design if you will see a robot that is able to reproduce?

If a robot, that is, a non-living thing made of non-biological materials, can "reproduce"?
What do you even mean?
Explain how a robot:

ro·bot

noun

1. (especially in science fiction) a machine resembling a human being and able to replicate certain human movements and functions automatically.
   "the robot closed the door behind us"

would reproduce.

 

[Kylie]

actually it start with a pendulum, which contain about 3 parts.

Did you even watch the video?

I'm guessing not.

 

[xianghua]

I'm guessing not.

so what is the starting point?

 

[xianghua]

If a robot, that is, a non-living thing made of non-biological materials, can "reproduce"?
What do you even mean?
Explain how a robot:

ro·bot

noun

1. (especially in science fiction) a machine resembling a human being and able to replicate certain human movements and functions automatically.
   "the robot closed the door behind us"

would reproduce.

what if its made of organic components? you will conclude design in such a case?

 

[xianghua]

How many times have you tried this line of argument?

How many times has it utterly failed?

Why do you keep trying it when you know it isn't going to work?

maybe because it works?

 

[xianghua]

Because it’s a penguin.

a robot cant looks like a penguin?

 

[Speedwell]

what if its made of organic components? you will conclude design in such a case?

Only if there is evidence of design. Being made of organic materials is not, in itself, evidence of design.