LDS 2 Nephi 25:23

[Hammster]

Again, your question is based upon a flawed assumptions (speaking from the LDS perspective). Until you are willing to examine those assumptions, your question is fundamentally flawed.

I have repeated this answer many times now. Until you are willing to examine these assumptions, and actually respond to what I say, I will not continue a conversation where I am ignored.

My question is based on what the verse says. You act like I'm making something up.

 

[tickingclocker]

="Jane_Doe, post: 69976542, member: 377805"]Actually, in my studies of different faiths, Deadworm appears to be quite correct. Denominations which disavow the notion of eternal security include Catholics, Orthodox, Anglicans*, and Methodists* (numerically about ~80% of the Christian world). Groups with hold to the notion of eternal security are some Baptists branches and some Evangelical groups.

The Catholic faith has stated many times that they believe, as Catholics, they are saved for eternity. (Others.. ehh... not so much. Two of my own Catholic friends firmly believe this. Three do not believe the latter, but do the former.) I have one other Catholic friend who I have no idea what she believes about eternal security. The subject has never come up so far. So its very difficult for me to believe otherwise when so much hard evidence is right there in front of me of Catholic teaching. Do they call it "eternal security"? No. It's simply salvation to them.

Assemblies of God should be included within your list. They believe one can lose their salvation. Evangelical and Baptist groups are pretty wide-reaching, and not as varied but more united. (Other than American Baptist which is a small minority among Baptists.) Some Orthodox churches do believe in eternal salvation. Not all, but some. The more west you go the more they accept it.

(* These groups are very varied, and I acknowledge that. For here I went with the majority. I also acknowledge my status as a non-expert and non-practiionar of these faiths, and could be misinformed).


Very few denominations interpret the creed in this way.
---Which ones don't? I just came from a study on the Creeds, and it was interpreted precisely this way by many who attended.


Acknowledging a person's free will and their ability to fall from grace is not the same as Arminianism.
---Arminianism says you can lose your salvation. What else is it but acknowledging a person's free will to deny the Holy Spirit?

 

[Ironhold]

My question is based on what the verse says. You act like I'm making something up.

...Yet we've told you that the verse must be understood in a larger context.

Why is this not being recognized?

 

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