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19 years old and I have chronic prostatitis...

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First, I'd like to say that this is a guy problem. Females, proceed at your own risk.

Wow, it really sucks. Not just the physical pain, but the psychological, emotional, and spiritual pain that comes with it. I don't even know which hurts worse.

I'll start from the beginning. Sometime last year, I began having testicular pain. I didn't think much of it, and simply dealt with it. This is after I had been without masturbation (or sex, as I'm a virgin) for a year or so. Then, one day, my [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] was bloody. It scared the crap out of me. I did some research online and found out that it's usually not much to worry about. I ignored it, till it happened again. And again. And again.

After several times, I decided to take my problems to the doctor. By now the pain was frequently severe.

The doctor gave me medicine for my bloody sperm, as that was my main concern. I assumed that the pain was from that, so I didn't make a big deal out of it. The medicine didn't help.

A while later, I decided to go to the urologist. He gave me some better medicine for the infection that was causing the blood, and it healed up. However, it was then that I was diagnosed with chronic prostatitis.

The doctor was shocked to realize that I hadn't been masturating. "Well, you must!" he said. "It's a way to minimize the pain."

What to do when a urologist tells you to touch when your convictions tell you strongly otherwise?

That is the question I've been asking myself for the past several months. I've been taking the doctor's advice, but my lust is as high as it's been since my lustful early years of high school. It's horrible. The emotional pain pierces like a dagger into my heart. Unfortuately, if I act to lessen that blow, the physical pain downright scares me.

I've been seeking help with this from the assistant pastor at a Christian organization I'm in at my college. He's a wonderful person, and a great inspiration for me. He let me borrow "The Problem of Pain" by C.S. Lewis to read, so I'm working on that. Still, though, the struggle persists.

Does anyone know what I'm going through? Does anyone have any helpful advice? In any case, please pray for me. Please pray for me to have strength of mind. I love my girlfriend very much and it hurts deeply to burn with lust thinking of her.
 

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If self pleasure helps reduce pain and doesn't cause further damage, I don't see the harm. However, you can do so without any emotional involvement. Clear your mind, do the deed, and think of nothing. If it helps, think of it like taking a pee. You don't lust when you urinate, so why when you self pleasure, eh? Both are simply your body depositing waist or excess material.

To cease lusting, simply put it out of your mind. I'm not sure how you can do this as I do not struggle with lust - at all. It's quite an alien concept to me. Anyway, the best course of action is to lie down on the floor in prayer, surrender your sexual will to God, and ask him to purge you of lustful feelings and desires. Trust me, if you truelly surrender your sexual will, Christ will help wash these sins from you. :thumbsup:
 
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Thanks a lot for the advice. I'll do my best to do that. The problem is, I've tried that. For me, it's hard to... you know... without thinking of anything. Last time I tried, it seemed like I was there forever and nothing was happening. I'll pray about it and continue asking God for help and guidance, though. Thanks again for your help.
 
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hats off to you for being 19 and going for a year.

The urologist has been in school for most of the length of your life. His advice is worthy of heeding. he's not trying to corrupt you. Luke was a physician and he wrote better than a quarter of the new testament. God gave us doctors.

I know it's confusing. one day this will all be behind you. For now, do whatcha gotta do.
 
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:wave: Hey bro, another frustrated prostititus guy here. I started having problems much as you described about a year-and-a-half ago and was told it was simple epidytimitis before being diagnosed with chronic prostrate trouble. It's a bit surprising at your age, but I've gotta' say, my doctor said pretty much the same thing your doctor said. Levaquin or Cipro are good antibiotics for killing the bacterial causes of this and Advil makes for a decent anti-inflamatory, but unfortunately, there's no substitute for making this go away short of giving your prostate gland a vigorous workout, and there's only one or two ways to do that. Fortunately, I'm married, but as any married guy will tell you, the bells and whistles don't come along as often as many of us would like - or in my case, need. On the Men's Health website there's a medical article which states that men who [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] at least 21 times a month are 33% less likely to have prostate problems. :eek: I had to show my wife that one to prove to her I wasn't lying! Another urology site I looked at cited that healthy men should have at least 3-5 [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] per week to keep their prostate gland healthy! :eek: I almost fell out with disbelief (had to show my wife that one too!). Given those stats, it's a miracle I'm still alive. The point is, don't feel guilty or condemned about this because in your case, and mine, it's a neccesity, not a lustful desire. And to those out there who haven't had this condition, I pray you never do! Unless you experience this, I don't think you can understand what it feels like - it only hurts when you're sitting down... or standing... or lying down... or walking... or breathing. Take the pills, take the doctor's advice; you're not a pervert. Stay in the Word and keep your faith, everything happens for a reason - at least that's what I always tell myself, and so far, it's seem to hold true. Take care and God bless. :cool:
 
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Thank you all so much for the advice. Nachtjager, you have no idea how encouraging it is to hear that from someone who's going through the same thing as me. Like you said, I don't think anyone can really understand it unless it happens to them.

Hopefully, after a couple more years, I'll ask my girlfriend to marry me and - again, hopefully - she'll say yes.

I guess chronic prostatitis can be a blessing, too - a reason to have frequent sex! Until then, I'll just have to stay in the word and prayfully attempt to let my actions not influence my thoughts.

Again, thank you so very much. It's amazing how much hope can come out of finding someone else who's in the same position you are.
 
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well, i feel you on that. it could be urethral strictures or something like that. cause thats what i have, bleeding in my sperm was the first thing i noticed along with the pain that come along with that. and excuse my language, but i found back when i was a sophomore in college one day i couldnt urinate at all and the doctors had to catherize me. it happened again 6 months later (March of 2005 and i was hospitalized for nearly a month). ive since realized its the cross that i got to bear that God gave me and i know how you feel cause i know how i feel. i got your back in prayer. as hard as it is, if your urologist is saying touch, pray to the Lord and do it to relieve yourself of the pain. urologists know what they're talking about cause if it wasnt for them, i might be dead right now. through God's grace, ive lived a year given teh problem and at 21 its hard to believe it. i cant sing to save my life (im a christian emcee instead, haha) but i sing hymns when i have to catherize myself. God knows our hearts but He knows whats best for us. to me, its the cross i must bear.

peace and 1 love
 
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Colossians3 said:
Thanks a lot for the advice. I'll do my best to do that. The problem is, I've tried that. For me, it's hard to... you know... without thinking of anything. Last time I tried, it seemed like I was there forever and nothing was happening. I'll pray about it and continue asking God for help and guidance, though. Thanks again for your help.
Try thinking about Jesus while you do the deed. I know that sounds twisted, but think of it like this. If you're thinking about Christ and all he's done for you while you self pleasure to ease the pain of man's most sensitive body part... do you really think that would be sinful? I'm not God, and I'm not Jesus. I'm a sinful man, just like everyone else. However, this is whut I would do in your shoes.
 
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I have tried that. That's what I do when I try not to think any bad thoughts, because I have to think something. But - and this may sound bad, too - thinking of Jesus doesn't send the proper signal to my brain letting it know that I should be... well... horny. It does just the opposite, really.

It's a good concept, but it doesn't work (for me, at least) in reality.


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Try thinking about Jesus while you do the deed. I know that sounds twisted, but think of it like this. If you're thinking about Christ and all he's done for you while you self pleasure to ease the pain of man's most sensitive body part... do you really think that would be sinful? I'm not God, and I'm not Jesus. I'm a sinful man, just like everyone else. However, this is whut I would do in your shoes.
 
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That's just it. You do not want to be horny. You can self pleasure without any emotional attachment. If it's pure physical stimulation and nothing more, you can do the act.

Self pleasure in itself is not a bad thing. For example, it may help prepare yourself for procreational activities with your spouse. After a nasty injury, it can be a test to see that you're still fully functional to see if you need to see a doctor.

In your case, the goal is to relieve yourself from pain. Think of Jesus to keep your thoughts pure and to ensure emotional detatchment, then you can do the deed to relieve pain without commiting a sin.

The big question is... if you are self pleasuring without emotional attachment nor sinful thoughts for the sole purpose of relieving pain, is that a sin? That's a question best suited for your Church Pastor. :thumbsup:
 
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Well I really feel for you having this medical condition but I think the Bible is clear that spilling your seed is wrong, whether or not lust is in your heart at the time, so I think it may be necessary to endure the pain with God's love.

It's not exactly the same but I have very painful and heavy periods, in fact I sometimes faint from it, but I'd prefer to embrace the pain than use a contraceptive pill as that's against my beliefs (plus my husband and I are trying for a baby...).
 
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it happens naturally. It's not something you can avoid. He can let it occur naturally and suffer from prostate pain, or he can manually deposit his seed and lessen the pain. Does it really matter how he spills the seed, so long as it's no more than once a day (that's how often it would occur naturally) and does not result in sinful thoughts?
 
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Danielof the Island said:
it happens naturally. It's not something you can avoid. He can let it occur naturally and suffer from prostate pain, or he can manually deposit his seed and lessen the pain. Does it really matter how he spills the seed, so long as it's no more than once a day (that's how often it would occur naturally) and does not result in sinful thoughts?

If he keeps himself pure in thought and deed he may not spill his seed at all, which is surely the best thing, and if he does then at least it will have happened against his will and in his sleep.

As for pain, maybe God wants to test him? I think he should be strong.
 
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Look, masturbation is NOT OK, under any circumstances. If your body needs to get rid of excess stuff, you have wet dreams and than takes care of it and thats beyond your control, unless you have been allowing things into your mind, eyes and heart that you shouldn't which can cause that as well.

I am not putting you down, in any way, but lust, impurity, immroality are all pretty much summed up as anything outside of sex with the wife God has given you.

It is so refreshing to hear you are a virgin, however! That is awesome.

God can heal your prostrate. Perhaps this has happened to cause you to seek Him for a deeper and more urgent manifestation of His reality and His power. I know HE wants to be closer to you and show you His love and His power beyond all we can imagine.

Forget what this Doctor said. Let God be true and every man a liar.
 
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I appreciate the opinions of each of you in this matter, but the truth is, it's hard for you to know what I'm going through without being in the situation yourself. I've talked to one person on CF who does have the same problem, and his solution was what I needed to hear.

By not focusing on the struggle of 'is this right or not,' I am able to spend my time worshipping God and growing closer to Him. Yes, I have grown much closer to God since the day I changed my perspective on this.

Like C.S. Lewis once said, "a prostitute is surely closer to the kingdom of heaven than a moralistic prig." Don't lose sight of God by looking only at your actions. Look at God and let Him guide your actions with his holy hand.
 
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Dracon427 said:
how easy it is for the people without the problem to tell you to suck it up.

Can the dr's give you any medications for it?

They already did (several). It helped certain problems go away (I wasn't going to mention it, but blood in the sperm), but he told me that I just have to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] often to lessen the pain.
 
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