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12+ year INLAW problem!

bessielou75

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My struggle is with my in-laws. Of course, this is my husband's problem too. His parents are divorced and have been since he was three. My husband has a good relationship with his dad and that side of the family. His mom's side however has been a nightmare. His mother left him because she was a pothead and has openly admitted to him that she was not ready to be a parent yet. What she did was move from guy to guy and smoke a lot of pot.

]When my husband was about 8 she remarried, a nice man, and he encouraged her to have a relationship with him (my husband). That went ok for years because they were supposedly saved and in church, and that is actually how we met.

When my husband was 17, he moved in with his mother and stepfather because his stepmother was abusive and he thought it would be a better situation. He was wrong, he just moved from one bad situation to another
When he moved in, he found out about his mother's lying and credit card debt behind his stepfather's back. Eventually that secret came out because my husband told his stepfather and things appeared to be worked on.

A couple months before my husband graduated from HS however, she cheated on my husband's stepfather with one of my husband's friends. Then she tried to blame him by saying if she had not had a graduation party for him it never would have happened. My husband left for basic training shortly after that and did not speak to his mother for 4 years. He attempted once to repair the relationship but all she wanted was an apology and told my husband that she had done nothing wrong. My husband just walked away from her.

After we had our child, he attempted again right before our child was two to welcome them into our life so that they could know their grandchild. That was in 2006 and things seemed, again, to be going well.

]However, in 2007, they left their church due to a big blowup caused by them, fell into drinking very heavily, and have completely turned their back on the Lord.
We have gone back and forth with them being allowed to spend time with our child because drink very heavily and have bad influences over at their house alot. We have even suggested if she want to see her grandchild that she come to our house to spend time with the child. She never did it. She always wanted to drive somewhere with our child, and we do not trust her to drive as she starts drinking early in the morning.

And at her house, they watch a lot of trash and sex on the TV and we do not believe that is appropriate for our child, who is now seven by the way.

We recently had reason to believe that my husband's step father still did not know about her affair from the previous years, which would not be any of my/our business except for the fact that we found out she could have been blaming it on US, and we heard that she told the family that she allowed my husband and I to have sex that night and that it was not her that had the affair at all. (I was not even at the party, just for the record)
So my husband and I confronted her about it, and said that we were not going to go to her husband with the information but we wanted to know if this was true. Because the whole reason why the family did not talk for 4 years was because of that and here my husbands step father has resented us all this time and for possibly false reasons. And I will admitt I was angry, but I did not confront her angrily.
So my husband and her talked it over. And she became hostile. My husband just tried to explain to her that all his life she has lied to him over and over and he only wants to be able to trust her, and on top of the drinking, he is just concerned and he feels he cannot trust her.
But this did not go over well because she started shouting at my husband in our drive way, threw my child's birthday presents at him and said "This is what you wanted" --- One thing I have never understood about this family is that when you confront them they think that you do not love them. That is not the case at all! We love them very much and are only concerned about them and we desperately want this relationship to work but it just isn't!
My question is this, my husband WANTS to honor his mother as the Bible instructs (and so do I) but how do we do this in this situation?? They are alcoholics, wallowing in filth and smut, and we now have reason to believe his step father is meeting other women in bars, etc. We do not want to be around when all of this comes to a head and blows up!
I am emotionally drained from this.
For the record also, I do not judge his mother for her past. I believe the past is the past, IF the behavior is still in the past, but it is not...
PLEASE HELP!
 
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I'll answer, but since I'm unmarried and not a parent, I may not be the best person. Honoring your parents doesn't mean ignoring what you know about them. It seems to me that you have been doing what you should, which is to forgive her and invite her to participate responsibly in your life. But you can't fix someone else, nor should you pretend that things are OK when they aren't. And you have responsibilities to your own family to protect them.
 
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Wow, I have 19 views and no one willing to respond or help in any way? So glad I came to a Christian forum seeking help and advice.....

Well, hang on now. Be nice. The scenario laid out for the reader isn't just a simple dilemma like what's a good birthday gift for my mom. We're talking lifelong, deep-rooted, very complicated personal and painful baggage that has been dealt out by a parent. People don't want to just rattle off a bunch of trite comments and advice.

anyway...

I think it's admirable that you want to obey God in the area of honoring your parents. This is difficult to do practically though when a parent does not live a life worthy of honor.

I don't think that honoring our parents means that we are required to take abuse from them. For one thing, this allows them to live in sin, and it hurts us in so many ways, especially when young children are involved.

If I were in this situation I would write a heartfelt letter - or if I felt brave enough, maybe have a face-to-face conversation. Not a confrontation - a conversation. A confrontation implies that something ugly is going to go down. A conversation is heart-to-heart and done in humility. If the parents are incapable of a humble heart-to-heart conversation, I'd write my thoughts in a letter. Apologize sincerely and specifically for things I(we) have done personally to make our relationship so unpleasant. Ask for forgiveness for those things. Then offer the same forgiveness to them. Now the hard part - I can forgive you, but this does not mean there are no consequenses for your behavior. Your behavior has led me to not be able to trust you, count on you, etc. Because of this, we will need to set some boundaries. (examples: parental supervision at grandparents house, no alcohol or drugs on your person when we are visiting, meet in a neutral location, etc.). A truly repentant person will understand your hesitancy to just automatically trust them and go on with life as though nothing was ever wrong.

If parents refuse to admit anything wrong or insist on being abusive tell them you will have to leave them in Gods hands until God changes either them or me. Until then I will rest assured that they are out of my hands and now in God's hands (when you fully realize what this means it is either incredibly comforting or incredibly scary). And then pray for them and the situation. Be willing to make some changes yourself if you need to.

This is what I would do in your situation. Hopefully that was not too trite or unrealistic.
 
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Dear Bessielou,

I'm truly sorry to hear about the trials you are living. Please understand, your husband's mom has drug, alcohol and possibly psychiatric problems. These diseases control and distort a person's behavior. Do not rely on her to process things in a reasonable way until she is completely sober (and maybe even not even then). Until this happens the best way you can honor her is to place healthy limits between her and your family.

You must protect your child. Do not leave your kid alone with her - ever (unless she gets clean for an extended period of time). Never let your child ride in the car with her driving. You do NOT have to be flexible with when it comes to your child's safety. Be respectful but firm. And be creative more than confrontational - for example organize meetings in neutral, public places (McDonalds, etc..).

You will find it very difficult to have a "heart-to-heart" with her as long as she still drinks. Alcoholism is a terrible disease. You might even want to consider Al-anon meetings to gain understanding.

Possibly the most you can do for her is pray. Sometimes people have to hit rock bottom before they wake up on their own. In the meantime, if she wants to see her grandchild - make sure you are present.

I hope this helps. I am praying for you and your family.
Grace to you,
Vince
 
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Dear Bessielou,

I'm truly sorry to hear about the trials you are living. Please understand, your husband's mom has drug, alcohol and possibly psychiatric problems. These diseases control and distort a person's behavior. Do not rely on her to process things in a reasonable way until she is completely sober (and maybe even not even then). Until this happens the best way you can honor her is to place healthy limits between her and your family.

You must protect your child. Do not leave your kid alone with her - ever (unless she gets clean for an extended period of time). Never let your child ride in the car with her driving. You do NOT have to be flexible with when it comes to your child's safety. Be respectful but firm. And be creative more than confrontational - for example organize meetings in neutral, public places (McDonalds, etc..).

You will find it very difficult to have a "heart-to-heart" with her as long as she still drinks. Alcoholism is a terrible disease. You might even want to consider Al-anon meetings to gain understanding.

Possibly the most you can do for her is pray. Sometimes people have to hit rock bottom before they wake up on their own. In the meantime, if she wants to see her grandchild - make sure you are present.

I hope this helps. I am praying for you and your family.
Grace to you,
Vince
 
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Right now with tight time, the only thing I can thing to recommend are a couple books.

Boundaries would be one.
http://www.amazon.com/Subtle-Power-...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1328561332&sr=1-1
Now would be the absolute perfect time, if you have a congregation to meet with the pastor or elder in charge and ask who you need to talk to for counseling as a couple. If they don't do that, time to find out who the good marriage counselors are in your area.

I don't think we have very many counselors on site that would be equipped enough to give full advise for a situation such as yours, but I would like to step up and say, sometimes the only way to best honor parents who are known abusers, is to not have contact with them.
 
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And at her house, they watch a lot of trash and sex on the TV and we do not believe that is appropriate for our child, who is now seven by the way.
With the kids,u can't allow her to do or watch inappropriate stuff with them.She shouldn't be alone with the kids period and u should tell her.She won't change,unless she wants to,So far she doesn't want to,probobly thinks she does nothing wrong.
 
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Right now with tight time, the only thing I can thing to recommend are a couple books.

Boundaries would be one.

Now would be the absolute perfect time, if you have a congregation to meet with the pastor or elder in charge and ask who you need to talk to for counseling as a couple. If they don't do that, time to find out who the good marriage counselors are in your area.

I don't think we have very many counselors on site that would be equipped enough to give full advise for a situation such as yours, but I would like to step up and say, sometimes the only way to best honor parents who are known abusers, is to not have contact with them.
ITA.

By all means write them a letter, as suggested by another poster, but i think you may be confusing your child by going to and fro on whether s/he can see the grandparents or not.

I also had another thought that if they are watching these things on tv, and living such a poor lifestyle, it's probably damaging to your child to spend any time with them at this point. Better not to have a grandparent than have a grandparent that may lead the child astray, kwim?
 
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bessielou,

I would advise that you and your DH talk to your pastor or a professional family counselor that is well acquainted with this situation. This situation is too complicated for complete strangers on the internet to offer advise to you about.

:)
 
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